X-Message-Number: 24368 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:28:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Skrecky <> Subject: 143'rd update on fly longevity experiments This is the 143'rd update of my fly longevity experiments. Average temperature was 24.1 C during this run. Estimated maximal longevity using the formula (363 - T*11.2) is 93 days. For some time, 1/8 tsp of citric has been a "standard" additive to 4-24 fly food, to help remedy a deficiency with respect to resistance to bacteria. Some previous testing had indicated that higher dosages of citric acid are more beneficial, and that sucrose additions are helpful as well. Here I seek to determine what the optimal amounts of citric acid and sucrose should be. Just how poor 4-24 fly food could be, took me by surprise. Although this was an "older" batch of fly food I did not expect to see visible "rotting" of the food in the no-additive, and 1 tsp sucrose bottles. Fortunately neither the 2 tsp sucrose bottle, nor any of the bottles with added citric acid showed such visible rotting. Although throughout most of the experiment the bottles with 1/2 tsp citric acid were significantly superior, there was a late onset of mold in these three bottles, which I believe destroyed the surviving flies. My workbook blamed a bad batch of fly food. Naturally I would never consider using such a poor fly food, except for two factors. 4-24 "medium" is the ONLY commercially available fly food I have been able to import. My previous attempts to manufacture my own fly food failed when I was refused access to a mold inhibitor, due to the lack of certain letters after my name. For the forseeable future I will remain stuck with 4-24 fly food, though I do plan on ordering it in smaller batches. (Run #157 is taking a look at citric acid again, while using a new batch of fly food.) Finally I have to account for the anomalously poor result for the 1/8 tsp citric bottle. This one is my fault. I use bleach to help clean out old breeding bottles. My workbook listed that less care than usual was spent washing two of these bottles. The 1/8 tsp citric bottle likely accounts for one of these, while the second bottle appears to have been used in the next run. In future a more time consuming procedure will be followed in my bottle washing. Run #143 Percent Survival on Day supplement 11 16 23 28 37 43 48 53 58 70 79 85 ________________________________________________________ none 100 97 87 62 35 27 19 11 3 3 0 - citric 1/8 tsp 100 97 0 - - - - - - - - - citric 1/2 tsp 100 97 94 90 84 77 74 55 23 0(mold) sucrose 1 tsp 100 77 59 18 5 5 5 5 5 0 - - + citric 1/8 tsp 100 95 95 79 47 42 21 16 11 5 0 - + citric 1/2 tsp 100 100 100 100 94 87 68 58 52 0(mold) sucrose 2 tsp 100 91 82 77 62 38 29 18 3 3 0 - + citric 1/8 tsp 92 88 72 72 60 64 52 40 28 12 4 0 + citric 1/2 tsp 100 100 97 97 94 88 78 66 41 13 0(mold) Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=24368