X-Message-Number: 24618 From: Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:36:23 EDT Subject: surveillance Although it's probably a waste of time even to talk about it, I disagree with James about the surveillance problem. I'm all for surveillance of everyone by everyone. First of all, it's unstoppable. Secondly, it's mostly beneficial, e.g. providing warning of crime or evidence to use afterward. (I understand there have been good results with TV cameras in public places in England.) Third, it's totally illogical to allow human observation as permissible--for example, police patrols or alert citizens--but not allow automated means. Fourth, the possibility of abuse is overstated--nobody and no government has the resources to review all the data for illicit purposes. Remember too that the anonymity of big cities is partly a recent thing and usually more bad than good. In earlier times, in small communities, and in large families, there were always nosy neighbors watching you, and that was a good thing on balance. Eventually, every home will have external and internal monitors with full coverage in continuous operation. Later every individual will have the same, with continuous uploads to secure remote storage, including smells as well as audio-video. That protection is worth a lot more than privacy. R.E. Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=24618