X-Message-Number: 24647
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 07:07:42 -0700
From: James Swayze <>
Subject: Fuel for the fire, both for debate and literally



http://www.nanonewsnet.com/index.php?module=pagesetter&func=viewpub&tid=5&pid=1498

Digital Gas Joins Quanta Consortium to Build Two 400-Megawatt 
Waste-to-Energy Plants in Taiwan
By: Admin (Admin) 2004.09.16

Digital Gas, Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: DIGG) Digital Gas announced today 
that its subsidiary, Digital Energy & Farming Asia LLC ("DEFA"), has 
signed an agreement to join the Quanta Energy Environment Consortium, 
which has received approval from the Taiwan Government to build two 
400-MW waste-to-energy plants in Taiwan.........

.......The waste-to-energy plants will employ a waste-processing 
technology that converts municipal, industrial, and residential waste 
streams to a by-product that, when burned, is not only environmentally 
clean and safe, but is 50-80% more efficient than burning conventional 
RDF.[cont.]

Ok, I suppose I should comment. There's been plenty of discussion about 
waning oil reserves and opposing opinions that it's not a problem 
because things such as the above will slowly take the place of oil.

Both sides are true. Oil will be replaced. Oil *IS* at peak and industry 
insiders know so. In fact a little known tidbit of the flap over the 
current Bush administration's gaff for outing one of our CIA operatives 
is that she was in place to gather information on what the Saudis 
actually have for reserves and aren't being public with the information.

Why? Terrorism that's why. And Why terrorism? I'll elaborate. The true 
cost of our dependence upon oil is our being a target for terrorists, 
specifically Muslim and more specifically Saudis. Why? Because John Q. 
Mohammad and friends have come to the realization that they've been 
played and they're not happy about it. The Saudi government cannot 
afford to let the cat out of the bag and become a greater target than 
we. We're an easy target but their real enemy is the Royal Saudi 
government. They attack us for supporting the Saudi government that 
allowed us [anyone not them] to drain their lands dry. Why are they 
angry with their own government? Because the greater amount of all the 
wealth has been sequestered to the few family members of the royal 
family mostly and it all came from oil and now guess what? It's running 
out! John Q. Mohammad is left thinking, "What about me, my future, my 
plans, my family?". I'm not condoning their actions against us, not at 
all! They are seriously misguided, even psychopathic, surely sociopathic 
and these are the fault again of their government for blindly supporting 
the Madras's that teach hate for the west. It's a Machiavellian ploy but 
it's begun to unravel. The Saudi government tried to place the heat, the 
blame on the west for 'taking all the oil', thus feebly trying to divert 
attention away from their own excesses and hoarding of all the wealth 
and plunder of all their only real resource. But for cripes sake! We're 
only customers! Free market and all that, right? If we weren't buying it 
someone else would. Don't think for a second that JQM cares a jot about 
the finer points of global economy and free market enterprise.

All they see is too many people getting nothing back from what they see 
as exploitation from the west and now we even threaten to get out of the 
oil business with them leaving them high and dry. Angry at us? You bet. 
Rightfully so? Not on your life, but try explaining that to someone 
that's been brainwashed their entire lives to blame the west for all the 
wrongs of their whore mongering drunken party going jet set 
thousand-and-one royal princes throwing their oil money away on very 
much *not* Islamic endeavors. It's no wonder really that they've glommed 
onto their new religion, more strict -- a reaction to the excesses of 
the royal family -- and back to the fundamentals which is what a lot of 
people do when placed in duress. Knowing no better they appeal to gawd 
and thinking they've done wrong, for how could such bad things happen to 
them if not that they are to blame for some sin and so back to appeasing 
said phantom with a push toward uberdiscipline.

Sure we'll find alternatives to the ever waning oil. We'll have to 
because it *is* ever waning. And really come-on is anyone really buying 
that a *finite resource* is not under pressure of running out just 
because better and better ways of refining it or better ways to conserve 
it continue to squeeze the most that is possible from it? It's a finite 
resource! No amount of fancy math is going to make it magically forever 
spring forth like a magic oil pool. It, that which is in the ground, 
cannot last forever, unless we've totally missed some geologic 
replenishment mechanism, I doubt that though... at least not one 
available for exploitation on the time scales we are using it up. It may 
be that methane ice very plentiful in the sea is subducted into the 
plate-tectonic motion to get further heated and squeezed into crude but 
that's not likely happening fast enough to be useful.

The price we'll pay is in lives lost to continued wars over that 
resource and let's not kid ourselves the war in Iraq though first most 
likely a diversion away from blaming the Saudis for 9/11 it still is a 
war over that resource. Every skirmish we'll enter into from here out 
over Islamic terrorism will be about that resource at the bottom of it 
all for the reasons I've stated above.

My greatest worry its that it will and must become a global conflict as 
in WWIII and someone is going to get nuked, I hope it is not us, 
actually I hope no one even the enemies die of such a thing. But the 
weapons are there and the mad temptation is to use them. The loss of the 
Soviet Union did us no favors whatsoever, wish that they were still 
strong and all their nukes safely in their hands and at the old standoff 
with us. At least we knew where they were and who and where the enemy 
was. Now who knows where they all are? I am tempted to speculate on what 
might could be but I'll refrain from it. I don't even want to think 
about that awful prospect.

James S.

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