X-Message-Number: 24647 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 07:07:42 -0700 From: James Swayze <> Subject: Fuel for the fire, both for debate and literally http://www.nanonewsnet.com/index.php?module=pagesetter&func=viewpub&tid=5&pid=1498 Digital Gas Joins Quanta Consortium to Build Two 400-Megawatt Waste-to-Energy Plants in Taiwan By: Admin (Admin) 2004.09.16 Digital Gas, Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: DIGG) Digital Gas announced today that its subsidiary, Digital Energy & Farming Asia LLC ("DEFA"), has signed an agreement to join the Quanta Energy Environment Consortium, which has received approval from the Taiwan Government to build two 400-MW waste-to-energy plants in Taiwan......... .......The waste-to-energy plants will employ a waste-processing technology that converts municipal, industrial, and residential waste streams to a by-product that, when burned, is not only environmentally clean and safe, but is 50-80% more efficient than burning conventional RDF.[cont.] Ok, I suppose I should comment. There's been plenty of discussion about waning oil reserves and opposing opinions that it's not a problem because things such as the above will slowly take the place of oil. Both sides are true. Oil will be replaced. Oil *IS* at peak and industry insiders know so. In fact a little known tidbit of the flap over the current Bush administration's gaff for outing one of our CIA operatives is that she was in place to gather information on what the Saudis actually have for reserves and aren't being public with the information. Why? Terrorism that's why. And Why terrorism? I'll elaborate. The true cost of our dependence upon oil is our being a target for terrorists, specifically Muslim and more specifically Saudis. Why? Because John Q. Mohammad and friends have come to the realization that they've been played and they're not happy about it. The Saudi government cannot afford to let the cat out of the bag and become a greater target than we. We're an easy target but their real enemy is the Royal Saudi government. They attack us for supporting the Saudi government that allowed us [anyone not them] to drain their lands dry. Why are they angry with their own government? Because the greater amount of all the wealth has been sequestered to the few family members of the royal family mostly and it all came from oil and now guess what? It's running out! John Q. Mohammad is left thinking, "What about me, my future, my plans, my family?". I'm not condoning their actions against us, not at all! They are seriously misguided, even psychopathic, surely sociopathic and these are the fault again of their government for blindly supporting the Madras's that teach hate for the west. It's a Machiavellian ploy but it's begun to unravel. The Saudi government tried to place the heat, the blame on the west for 'taking all the oil', thus feebly trying to divert attention away from their own excesses and hoarding of all the wealth and plunder of all their only real resource. But for cripes sake! We're only customers! Free market and all that, right? If we weren't buying it someone else would. Don't think for a second that JQM cares a jot about the finer points of global economy and free market enterprise. All they see is too many people getting nothing back from what they see as exploitation from the west and now we even threaten to get out of the oil business with them leaving them high and dry. Angry at us? You bet. Rightfully so? Not on your life, but try explaining that to someone that's been brainwashed their entire lives to blame the west for all the wrongs of their whore mongering drunken party going jet set thousand-and-one royal princes throwing their oil money away on very much *not* Islamic endeavors. It's no wonder really that they've glommed onto their new religion, more strict -- a reaction to the excesses of the royal family -- and back to the fundamentals which is what a lot of people do when placed in duress. Knowing no better they appeal to gawd and thinking they've done wrong, for how could such bad things happen to them if not that they are to blame for some sin and so back to appeasing said phantom with a push toward uberdiscipline. Sure we'll find alternatives to the ever waning oil. We'll have to because it *is* ever waning. And really come-on is anyone really buying that a *finite resource* is not under pressure of running out just because better and better ways of refining it or better ways to conserve it continue to squeeze the most that is possible from it? It's a finite resource! No amount of fancy math is going to make it magically forever spring forth like a magic oil pool. It, that which is in the ground, cannot last forever, unless we've totally missed some geologic replenishment mechanism, I doubt that though... at least not one available for exploitation on the time scales we are using it up. It may be that methane ice very plentiful in the sea is subducted into the plate-tectonic motion to get further heated and squeezed into crude but that's not likely happening fast enough to be useful. The price we'll pay is in lives lost to continued wars over that resource and let's not kid ourselves the war in Iraq though first most likely a diversion away from blaming the Saudis for 9/11 it still is a war over that resource. Every skirmish we'll enter into from here out over Islamic terrorism will be about that resource at the bottom of it all for the reasons I've stated above. My greatest worry its that it will and must become a global conflict as in WWIII and someone is going to get nuked, I hope it is not us, actually I hope no one even the enemies die of such a thing. But the weapons are there and the mad temptation is to use them. The loss of the Soviet Union did us no favors whatsoever, wish that they were still strong and all their nukes safely in their hands and at the old standoff with us. At least we knew where they were and who and where the enemy was. Now who knows where they all are? I am tempted to speculate on what might could be but I'll refrain from it. I don't even want to think about that awful prospect. 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