X-Message-Number: 24908 Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:41:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Skrecky <> Subject: 157'th update on fly longevity experiments This is the 157'th update of my fly longevity experiments. Average temperature was 27.7 C during this run. Estimated maximal longevity using the formula (363 - T*11.2) is 53 days. Citric acid has become a standard additive since it was first proved to increase survival. I had attributed this to a reduced bacterial load in the acidified fly food. Since I began rotating my breeding bottles more frequently, fly longevity has increased. Explicit retesting of citric acid has now tended to question its utility. Here I retest citric acid at various doses to settle this question conclusively. I also check to see if adding a little extra water yields any benefit, since adding a little extra water to breeding bottles increased their yield. No consistent effects for extra water are noted in this run. However the effect of increased citric acid has now been reversed! Recent published research has found that exposure of young flies to low doses of bacteria actually increased their subsequent survival. It is possible that my flies now have a sufficiently low bacteria exposure, that the addition of an acidifing agent to the food now has harmful effects. Run #157 Percent Survival on Day supplement 10 21 26 32 37 42 47 52 ________________________________________ citric 1/8 tsp 100 68 56 52 28 4 0 - "+1 tsp water 85 58 50 39 27 15 0 - citric 1/4 tsp 100 47 32 26 16 0 - - "+1 tsp water 100 47 37 26 21 5 0 - citric 1/2 tsp 96 50 23 18 5 0 - - "+1 tsp water 96 59 41 27 14 9 5 0 "+2 tsp water 94 61 39 17 6 0 - - citric 1 tsp 94 22 22 22 6 0 - - "+1 tsp water 95 37 32 5 0 - - - "+2 tsp water 93 64 14 7 7 0 - - citric 2 tsp 84 5 0 - - - - - "+1 tsp water 100 36 5 0 - - - - "+2 tsp water 90 21 5 0 - - - - Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=24908