X-Message-Number: 24984
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:26:29 EST
Subject: Re: Physical Immortality issue most excellent!

In a message dated 11/5/2004 5:00:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,  

Message  #24975
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Subject: Physical  Immortality magazine, 4th quarter of 2004 issue has just
Date: Thu, 04 Nov  2004 10:39:54 -0700

Hello everyone,

The 2004 4th Quarter edition  of Physical Immortality magazine has just been r
eleased, and we are proud of  the 
results.  Cover art is by Gina "Nanogirl" Miller, with articles  by Mike 
Perry (Deconstructing Deathism), James B. 
Lewis (A Rational Gamble  For Reanimation), David Pizer (Are Christians 
Commanded to Opt for Cryonics?,  Declaration of 
Independence from Death), Thomas Donaldson (book review of  "Intelligence of 
Apes and other Rational Beings," Why 
Cryonics Will  Probably Help You More Than Anti-aging Medicine), and Anthony 
Dawber (Towards  a Practical Philosophy of 
Physical Immortality and Cryonics  Culture).  This is one of our thicker 
issues and we also have interviews  of Robert 
Ettinger, Ben Best and Joe Waynick which were expertly done by  James Swayze, 
who is our roving reporter.  Yours truly 
wrote a  lighthearted update on activities & personalities at the Creekside  
Lodge/Ventureville.  Thomas Donaldson (a 
frequent contributor) shared  with us a piece of fiction depicting religion 
in the far future.  Dick  Pelletier, an 
Arizona newspaper columnist, allowed some of his columns on  technology & 
society to be reprinted in our magazine.  He 
is a  man in the media mainstream who recognizes the oncoming technological 
advances  in a sometimes very transhumanist 
way.  Chrissie de Rivaz in her PI  magazine column wrote a thoughtful piece 
on "seizing the day" and getting the  most 
out of life.  Never to be forgotten, in the "First Words"  section we gave 
tribute to Bruce Klein's mother who was 
recently killed in  a tragic auto accident.  

There is much "meat" and also some  "milk" in this issue.  I would say the 
two writings in this issue which  engaged me 
the most were "Why Cryonics Will Probably Help You More Than  Anti-aging 
Medicine" by Thomas Donaldson, and also David 
Pizer's  "Declaration from Death."  But we all have our own individual tastes 
and  interests.

I suspect the reason why some people do not subscribe to  Physical 
Immortality magazine is that they feel it will not 
offer anything  new but instead simply be more "preaching to the choir."  But 
I honestly  believe anyone could find 
several nuggets of information/insight with the  variety of articles, news 
bits and columns which we offer.  And Mike  
Perry's brief editorial comments (attached to many of the articles) really  
enhance the reading experience.  Mike is 
one of the true scholars of  cryonics and has many insightful things to share.

Please consider  getting gift subscriptions for any friends or family who you 
think would  appreciate a magazine of this 
kind.  Sometimes when a person sits  down to read about something in a 
friendly magazine format, the subject  material 
opens up for them in a way it might not in normal  conversation.  PI is 
written to be very approachable to the reader  
who is new to cryonics and life extension.  I can proudly say several  of our 
"first generation" subscribers have 
gotten multiple gift  subscriptions for their friends and especially family 

I would  ask everyone to keep in mind the high costs to the Society for 
Venturism when  it comes to publishing the 
magazine.  And so contributions to defray  the high cost would be greatly 
appreciated.  Physical Immortality is a  labor 
of love for us, but if subscription sales and donations do not  increase, in 
time we may cancel it.  Please don't let 
this  happen.  A donation of even a small amount of money is very much  

How to subscribe:

Send a check or money order in  the amount of $24.00 (U.S.) or $36.00 
(foreign) to:

The Society for  Venturism
11255 S.S.R. 69
Mayer, Arizona 86333  

If not for  yourself, get a gift subscription for a  friend.

Dear John Grigg, Dave Pizer, Mike Perry, and fellow futurenauts,
Just a note to say I have received and read every word of the latest  

"Physical Immortality."  I found the James Swayze interview with Ben Best,  Joe
Waynick, and Robert Ettinger especially insightful.

The editing and content just keeps getting better!  I have sent my  

subscription plus a small donation today.  I apologize for not doing this  
Your description of Creekside, John, has the characteristic warmth,  

humanity, and enthusiasm which have become your hallmarks.  I can't wait to  
this fascinating community.  I would hope that the next cryonics  convention 
could be held at or near your place.  (While the last convention  held in 

California was superb, the venue was so fancy and pricey that some  cryonicists 
not "cost justify" the trip.  Plus, no tours of Alcor  Central occurred.)
I also want to talk or email you about an ongoing advertisement.  You  were 
good enough to provide several copies, please know these extras will go to  
help "acculturate" new signed up cryonicists.  
If I were just a wee different age, and did not have the many ties to  family 
and community here in beautiful Port Orange, FL, it would be a joy to  help 
you, Mark Plus, Dave and Judy Pizer, Mike Perry, and other visionaries  build 
this "Cryonics Friendly" community.  

Instead, please know you  have the respect and appreciation of many 

cryonicists and potential  immortals.  So many talk about doing something that 
build the  psychological and physical infrastructure of preserving individual 
lives.   You and your compadres are actually doing exactly this.  Keep up the 
great  work!
Your Friend, for Centuries,
Rudi Hoffman

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