X-Message-Number: 24992
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 07:59:43 -0500
From: Thomas Donaldson <>
Subject: CryoNet #24988 - #24991

Hi everyone!

Dave Pizer is quite correct when he says that signing up fails to
guarantee suspension. While I know of no steps which GUARANTEE
suspension, there's a strong case that we should keep track of
one another more closely, perhaps with a kind of "buddy" system.

Certainly, once Dave Pizer's cryonics community has been built,
then once we get there we're probably more safe than in the 
outer community. One fundamental problem, however, lies in 
that phrase "once we get there": most of us have to live in an
outside world not necessarily friendly to cryonics or cryonicists,
and even worse, one which may hide that unfriendliness from us
until we've become ill enough not to see it at all. I'd trust
another cryonicist with my life much more than I'd trust a 
relative who isn't a cryonicist and doesn't understand our
thinking at all.

And I'll also add a bit about the so-called threats to us by
Bush and "right-to-lifers". I think we should pay much more
attention to the threats to us by relatives or friends who
go along with our beliefs whenever they speak with us, but 
do so only out of politeness or outright attempt to fool us
about their devotion --- and then turn around when we become
incapacitated and try to get us buried or cremated.

            Best wishes and long long life to all,

                 Thomas Donaldson

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