X-Message-Number: 25140 From: Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:22:25 EST Subject: "shared" experiences If I understand him correctly, Mike Perry thinks that, if A and B (or A and A, for that matter) have sufficiently similar mental events, they "share" experience. I think this is inappropriate language, for the following reasons: 1. Chronology. If you and I have sufficiently similar experiences at different times, I don't think any reasonable person would say that we "shared" the experience. Or if I had the same experience at different times--maybe I smelled coffee--we would just say my experience was repeated, not that my past and future selves "shared" something. 2. "Fungibility" and "sharing" are not the same. Hydrogen atoms are fungible, and everybody has a lot of them in his brain, but does that mean you and I "share" hydrogen atoms? Bad language. If A and B and their experiences differ only in spatial location--assuming this is possible, which is unclear--then saying that A and B "share" experience is still just a choice of language, not a logical conclusion from agreed premises. And that, in my opinion, is what the "pattern" people basically do--they base their conclusions on arbitrary and inappropriate use of language. Robert Ettinger Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=25140