X-Message-Number: 25169 Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:44:59 -0800 Subject: From: <> Dear Mike, "In a recent posting I said, 'I think there are very good reasons to be involved in cryonics,' even though I also think that, based on the patternist view of survival that I accept, a person can expect an eventual return to consciousness regardless. Such a return would, however, require filling-in of missing detail by guesswork, so the resulting restoration would retain an ersatz character compared to a more straightforward revival using preserved information." There is no need of any prior information whatsoever. In fact, you don't need to do a thing, because in the multiverse, an exact copy of you will sponteously come into existence (via the chance arrangement of atoms) an infinitely many times, with all your memories and personality traits in tact, in all stages in your life. Even if this were deemed insufficient, you could just construct a 'brain' randomly. That is, for every position, choose a random atom and displacement, based on a quantum mechanical random number generator. Of course, in most universes, this won't result in a brain at all, but in some it will result in an exact duplicate of your brain. So if, in your universe, you get junk, you can just discard it, knowing that in some universe that branched off from yours, every single person ever living or ever to live was duplicated, at all stages in their life. Both of these arguments nullfiy the need for cryonics if you believe in both the pattern soul and the multiverse. Therefore, I do not see why you believe in cryonics. I should think, you should kill yourself, and repeatedly kill yourself, until you find yourself instantiated in a suitable universe (one with potential for long life and happiness). Of course, I don't recommend this, because in my view, if you kill yourself you are dead and gone, never to return. Best Regards, Richard B. R. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=25169