X-Message-Number: 25319
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:35:43 -0500
From: Thomas Donaldson <>
Subject: CryoNet #25302 - #25316

Well, well, for RBR once more:

I note that you haven't really answered my questions. Richard, you
can repeat the claim that the QE of me differs from the QE of 
an exact (note the word EXACT here) copy as often as you wish, but 
that does not establish it. Nor do your comments in this particular
edition of Cryonet (13 December) actually answer my question. Nor
do they answer the questions of Scott Badger. (I believe I asked
similar questions some days ago, but they deserve repetition if
only because you seem not to have noticed them).

Fundamentally, you want to make continuity essential to the 
notion of a QE (if I read you correctly). But you're trying to
do that first, without ever defining what continuity means in the
context of QEs, and second, arguing that your definition has 
some special character that makes it the best one.

And I suspect you're not understanding me, either. I'm not a 
proponent of uploading, at least at present, not because I think it
is fundamentally impossible but because I think it is much harder
than most proponents think --- so much that I strongly doubt 
that uploading could now save anyone. And when, someday (probably
after we've all been suspended and awakened with our original
brains) we may see such an ability actually developed, it will
look quite clear that it works, and with  both costs and benefits,
too. And if we find it can't be done (though I now think that unlikely)
then that will prove very interesting too.

And I will not repeat my questions to you in this message. If you've
saved them, then reread and ANSWER them. If you haven't, you 
should be able to recover them.

          Best wishes and long long life for all,

               Thomas Donaldson

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