X-Message-Number: 25319 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:35:43 -0500 From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: CryoNet #25302 - #25316 Well, well, for RBR once more: I note that you haven't really answered my questions. Richard, you can repeat the claim that the QE of me differs from the QE of an exact (note the word EXACT here) copy as often as you wish, but that does not establish it. Nor do your comments in this particular edition of Cryonet (13 December) actually answer my question. Nor do they answer the questions of Scott Badger. (I believe I asked similar questions some days ago, but they deserve repetition if only because you seem not to have noticed them). Fundamentally, you want to make continuity essential to the notion of a QE (if I read you correctly). But you're trying to do that first, without ever defining what continuity means in the context of QEs, and second, arguing that your definition has some special character that makes it the best one. And I suspect you're not understanding me, either. I'm not a proponent of uploading, at least at present, not because I think it is fundamentally impossible but because I think it is much harder than most proponents think --- so much that I strongly doubt that uploading could now save anyone. And when, someday (probably after we've all been suspended and awakened with our original brains) we may see such an ability actually developed, it will look quite clear that it works, and with both costs and benefits, too. And if we find it can't be done (though I now think that unlikely) then that will prove very interesting too. And I will not repeat my questions to you in this message. If you've saved them, then reread and ANSWER them. If you haven't, you should be able to recover them. Best wishes and long long life for all, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=25319