X-Message-Number: 25420 From: "Brook Norton" <> Subject: Ettinger hints we may not survive Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 08:35:30 -0800 Bob Ettinger says in message 25413, "Again-- you survive (at least in part) if there is overlap--in matter, space, and time--between you and your early successors or continuers. To deny this, it seems to me, would be to deny that you survive from day to day in the ordinary course of events." Agreed. Not surviving, in any meaningful way, is the logical alternative. I would encourage those who closely follow this survival thread to seriously consider that survival is not the only logical reality. We don't insist that a grain of sand or a beach survives, only that they change over time. What makes a person intrinsically any different from any other physical object? Why insist that one survives while the other doesn't? "Kirk, yield to the logic of the situation." All physical entities progress through time and change. That is the whole proposition. No need to add the complexity of an appeal to survival. It is certainly INTUITIVE that we survive day to day in the ordinary course of events, but I have found very satisfactory explanations for the state of our existence, by expanding upon the basic premise of existence without survival. Happy Holidays, Brook Content-Type: text/html; [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=25420