X-Message-Number: 25441 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 17:06:23 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Badger <> Subject: Above what you are ... for Richard Richard writes: The idea that the human species is 'primitive' or 'base' and needs to 'progress' beyond such baseness is laughably absurd; [snip] It's not that you cannot rise above what you are. It's that 'above what you are' is determined by who you are, and does not possess an objectively useful definition. People who think otherwise are simply mistaken, having no knowledge of the nature of reality. Scott writes: Are you referring to transhumanists here? Is my desire to progress beyond my 'natural' life span 'laughably absurd'? If I define a longer life as desirable, why should I care if that definition has objective utility (whatever that means)? Also, may I ask ... which theory of mind would you say most closely aligns with your views? Best regards, Scott Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=25441