X-Message-Number: 25473 References: <> From: Peter Merel <> Subject: The Singularity Is A Fantasy Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:49:44 +1100 Mark Plus asks about the whereabouts of the nanotech singularity. Any Computer Scientist worth their salt can tell him - in his dreams. Here's why: No one has the foggiest idea how to command, control, or even orient just a single robot in a physical environment anywhere near as complex and demanding as that of an assembler. The nanotech apologists' counter to this is that, with the advent of assemblers, real AI is just around the corner, and this AI can easily handle the command and control issues of an assembler. Or a pound of assemblers together. No worries. The trouble is this assumes the antecedent - that you can command and control a pound of assemblers well enough for them to express coherent cognitive behaviors in order to create the command and control necessary for their own operation ... Catch-22. As computer science stands at present we have about as much chance of creating real AI in a pound of assemblers as we have of creating it in a ton of PCs. Which is to say, none. And the reason for that is also well known to any Computer Scientist worth their salt: all AI technologies founder on combinatorial complexity under a Turing/Von Neumann computing paradigm. You can get your expert system/neural net to pull cute tricks in small domains, but the moment you try to scale up, the time and space requirements of your program go exponential. In the last fifty years no one has been able to demonstrate any significant way around this "combinatorial explosion". This is not to say we may not hope for an AI breakthrough some time in the future. It may be that quantum computing or a non-Turing computational paradigm will enable the requisite nanotech command and control process, and then we can all breathe a sigh of ... well, I don't know if you've watched "Forbidden Planet" recently, but perhaps relief isn't the right word. Peter Merel. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=25473