X-Message-Number: 25483 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:45:50 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Badger <> Subject: Re: coadjutants Dr. E wrote: Matthew Sullivan wrote about coadjutant minds--each "person" perhaps scattered over many planets, the parts in some kind of communication. I write: Google search for "coadjutant minds" = 0 Is this phrase original to you, Dr. E? Dr. E wrote: There is always a non-zero chance of calamity, with eventual calamity certain. But it you are large enough and growing fast enough, and if destruction of any single piece is not fatal, then there can be a non-zero chance of infinite life. ...it seems reasonable that "you" in that case would have no single, central essence, but would have (or be) many qualia and systems of qualia at all times. Changes, losses, or additions would be just that or those, both subjectively and objectively. I write: What about the idea of taking the form of a Utility Fog, a concept popularized in Crichton's book, "The Prey". I always thought that if the mind could be sustained on such a substrate, it would be ideal for survival, although I suppose a major calamity would still be a problem (e.g. a nearby supernova). Using that form, we could choose to be so diffuse as to be invisible or take on the shape of any solid object we wish. Perhaps your primary consciousness could be based somewhere else and simply be extended to the fog. I would also think the fog could separate into multiple smaller fogs each working on a different project at the same time. Links can be found at: http://www.pivot.net/~jpierce/utility_fog.htm Matthew wrote: As long as there is a free flow of information between copies and a resynchronization based on the knowledge and experience of all copies, I don t believe duplicate minds must deviate from one another. I write: Agreed, but let me ask you this; Isn't it likely the technology to link with others will likely arrive prior to duplicate- producing technologies? Suppose you decided to connect with 9 other people so that you all started sharing experiences simultaneously (i.e. a Borg-like state). How could your brain handle processing that much information? For that matter, how could you handle it even if you were linked to duplicates? And even if your brain could handle it, would your original identity still be intact after 'becoming' 10 people? How small would the world seem after disengaging? And what about the economic pressures to go Borg? Two heads really are better than one and 100 is probably better than 25 when it comes to being competitive in a capitalist based economy. The term "corporate entitities" may well take on new meaning in the future. Best regards, Scott ===== Wm Scott Badger, PhD Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=25483