X-Message-Number: 2550 Subject: Hi Temp CRYONICS Wrap-up From: (Ben Best) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 22:06:00 -0500 [This is a close re-send of a message I sent two days ago, but which was apparently lost -- or, at least, I haven't seen it sent back as a CRYONET message] I must congratulate Mike Darwin for the speed, deftness and brilliance of his reply to my last posting. "Congratulate" understates my response, because I am actually somewhat in awe. Although I am pleased with the consequences of having posted Douglas Skrecky's article, I want to stress that the ONLY reason I did it was because Steve Bridge asked me to. But then Steve adroitly stepped aside, and I suddenly discovered egg in my face. I'd almost think that Steve asked me to send Skrecky's article to Greg Fahy just to affirm Greg's impression that I am a dolt, but I know that is not the case. Steve requested posting of Douglas Skrecky's article so that the ideas could be discussed. Such posting is appropriate for a *FORUM*, not a *FORMAL JOURNAL*. I regard CryoNet and CANADIAN CRYONICS NEWS as forums -- places for discussion. It is not irresponsible to present half-baked ideas in a forum -- we must have a place to thrash these things out. Saying that an idea is WRONG is quite different from saying that it is IRRESPONSIBLE to express that idea. I recognize the problems and paradoxes presented when a forum becomes so large as to become a public platform, and I have no easy solution. I acknowledge that we, as cryonicists, must be more careful than others to appear as scientists, rather than cranks. "There are no easy answers." Douglas Skrecky is not such an idiot as Mike may believe. Douglas is very aware of the superiority of trehalose to sucrose, but chose sucrose for reasons of economy. He was not aware of the nephrotoxicity of sucrose -- which is, after all, a very recent discovery by Biopreservation. Anyway, any adequate future reanimation technology could surely replace a damaged kidney. To Thomas Donaldson, I want to say that the survival of a city and the survival of a business are very different things. MOST businesses fail within a few years. It is expecting a great deal for a risk-prone venture like cryonics to produce organizations that last 100 years, especially given the volatile nature of the people who are drawn to these organizations. -- Ben Best (ben.best%) Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=2550