X-Message-Number: 25656 From: Tim Freeman <> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:18:45 -0700 Subject: Steve Coles and Supercentenarians Here's an email from Steve Coles that is relevant to a conversation on this list that ended last year sometime. Wow, I was really behind on my email then. To join the mailing list he's talking about, send email to Followups to text he wrote should probably go to him. (Converted from HTML to plain text.) -- Tim Freeman http://www.fungible.com Programmer/consultant in the Sunnyvale, CA area. I'm presently available. Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:30:45 -0800 To: Tim Freeman <> From: "L. Stephen Coles, M.D., Ph.D." <> Subject: Re: : Re: [CN] Aging: The Reality Dear Tim: Thank you for your extensive clarification below. I guess we should all learn the lesson that quackwatch.org should not be one's first and final source of information about a person. The Abstract being referred to at the beginning of your message is a highly-respectable piece of science of which I'm rightfully proud. It was published in a peer-reviewed scientific publication (The Journal of Gerontology) with many of my colleagues and former teachers as members of their Editorial Board. Please feel free to post this reply back on the Cryonet Discussion Group with an invitation to anyone who wishes to learn more about Supercentenarians to join our Gerontology Research Group Discussion List. We are in the process of forming a Supercentenarian Research Foundation (SRF) that will be a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization to support research in this area (providing tissue samples and DNA analyses of persons over 110 years old to investigators around the world). Best wishes, Steve Coles L. Stephen Coles, M.D., Ph.D., Co-Founder, Los Angeles Gerontology Research Group URL: http://www.grg.org UCLA David Geffen School of Medicine Pager: 1-800-471-5431 E-mail: ___________________________________________________________ At 12:37 PM 1/31/2005, [Tim Freeman] wrote: > This bounced when I sent it back on December 16th. Trying again. > ------- Start of forwarded message ------- > From: Tim Freeman <> > Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:27:37 -0700 > From-Tims-Fingers: true > To: > Subject: Re: [CN] Aging: the Reality > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 23:26:22 -0700 > From: "L. Stephen Coles, M.D., Ph.D." <> > > Tim: So when are you going to tell me who David Stodolsky is > > and why he was looking for me on quackwatch.com? > > And why he suggested that I never worked for UCLA at all? > > It seems like he did a lot of work for someone I don't know and > > who didn't bother to contact me. I'm still waiting to hear from > > you. -- Steve Coles > > Sorry, that E-mail got buried in a pile that I'm excavating now. > > There is a mailing list called cryonet in which cryonics is discussed. > Everything there is to know about that mailing list can be found at > http://www.cryonet.org, if you're interested. Doug Skrecky, who often > digs up and posts interesting abstracts of papers to the list, came across > a paper of yours and posted the Abstract: > > http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=24318 > > Then David Stodolsky apparently was interested in getting more details > about your research that Skrecky abstracted, and when he couldn't find > it, he investigated further and, for a mixture of reasons that have > surely been fixed by now, he couldn't find anything that gave him warm > feelings that you're legitimate. Part of the absence of warm feelings > was that he didn't find contact information for you, so he posted his > findings to the list and did not contact you: > > http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=24320 > > I knew your contact information from the GRG mailing list, so I > followed up to clarify things: > > http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=24325 > > I think that anyone who had concerns about you being fictional has been > convinced otherwise, and the issue is over now. > > -- Tim Freeman > http://www.fungible.com > > Programmer/consultant in the Sunnyvale, CA area. > I'm presently available. L. Stephen Coles, M.D., Ph.D., Co-Founder Los Angeles Gerontology Research Group URL: http://www.grg.org URL: http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~scoles E-mail: Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=25656