X-Message-Number: 25737
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 08:27:31 -0500
From: Thomas Donaldson <>
Subject: CryoNet #25729 - #25734

To Yvan Bozzonetti:

As someone who suspended a cat ("Daisy") some years ago with Alcor,
I agree with the point you made. Not only that, but I would say
that my feeling in suspending Daisy were the same (but not as
strong, to be frank) as those I'd have in wanting a relative or
very close friend to be suspended.

As they become closer to us, different species of animals come
closer to our feelings and even our understanding. When I was doing
my PhD at U of Chicago I had a pet monkey, and it was very clear
while I lived with her that she had more feelings and understanding
than either a dog or a cat. (When I left UC, it turned out that
I could not take her with me. I spent several months looking for
a new owner for her --- and one unbreakable requirement for a new
owner was that he or she had already owned a monkey).

Verbeke is being very careless about the feelings and even the 
understanding of animals. Yes, it depends on the species, of
course. But animals such as apes and monkeys, who come closer
to us in brain power than any other species, also come closer
in understanding.

          Best wishes and long long life to all,

                 Thomas Donaldson

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