X-Message-Number: 2578 Date: 29 Jan 94 16:01:13 EST From: Mike Darwin <> Subject: CRYONICS Re: Cryonics and Quackery I can answer some of Thomas' questions about William Jarvis. I have talked with him extensively and he has received (and actually read) the first version of the Alcor handbook CRFT. I know this because I sent it along with a LOT of other material and spoke with him after he received it. Jarvis is personable enough but is typical of most in the medical and scientific community as regards human cryopreservation: unproven claims depending upon as yet unrealized (and possibly unrealizable) science are quackery. I find Thomas' opinion that cryonics is considered quackery as a "minority opinion" in the medical/scientific community BIZZARE in the extreme. Perhaps this is a result of his sheltered background! I have been in the trenches and in INTIMATE contact with a LARGE cross-section of medical and scientific personnel and let me assure you that the attitude that cryonics is quackery is the DOMINANT one. This is particularly true of people in a position of authority. The "opposition" will crystalize when cryonics becomes noticeable from an economic/sociological standpoint. This WILL happen. It will also happen when cryonics and medicine begin to be forced into a closer interface. As Steve Harris so succintly puts it: medicine has not yet "noticed" cryonics. Sooner or later it will. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=2578