X-Message-Number: 25865 From: "Kitty Antonik Wakfer" <> Subject: RE: The Cryonics Society (Msg #25846) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:17:12 -0700 > Message #25846 > From: "Billy H.Seidel" <> > Subject: The Cryonics Society > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:15:30 -0800 > > WOW, Kitty Antonik Wakfer. > > Great stuff. I wish I could put together the ideas and words you > just did in your last post on "The Cryonics Society". > > I don't intend to imply that The Cryonics Society is at all like > some of the mailings that my 80 Year old Mother did, but it sure > sounds like it. Send me your money and we will send you your > personal and secret numbers to win whatever you need numbers for. > My Mother and a lot of elderly people used to and are still > getting cheated out of their precious savings by such false lies > and promises. My Mom would send as much as $80 a month to these > various letters from all over the world asking for just $20 or > $10 or whatever they could. She would say, "Well it sounded like > a good idea". I could go on for a long time on the slick letters > she used to get. I could not get them to stop. Finally I > returned them unopened and marked "Deceased". > > Kitty, my compliments on your in-depth analysis and questions > about The Cryonics Society. > > Thank you > > Billy H. Seidel > I am pleased that at least one person, Billy H. Seidel, appreciated the needed in-depth analysis about the "Cryonics Society". (Where are all those on CryoNet who in the past have been highly critical or skeptical about other far better detailed efforts to raise research funds or "outreach" to those uninformed about cryonics? I have wondered at their absence.) Yes, the message at CryoNet by Pascal/Matic and the website cryonicssociety.org reminded me too of postal and electronic mailings (as well as phone calls) I've received "for a good cause", asking just for what some would consider a relatively small amount of money. It is more than unfortunate that large numbers of people are satisfied with warm fuzzy sounding words and fail to look or ask for important information *before* being "impressed" enough to render praise and give money. These are often not just 80 year old mothers/grandmothers but even middle age and younger men and women who have not trained themselves to always read for content (meaning, implication, consistency and completeness) and know that it is necessary to *actually perform* assessments/evaluations of the credibility of the people behind those words. Once again - for others, not Billy - it is people not "societies" that think, write, act, etc. It is never too late to acquire the skills needed for such evaluations. The first step is to read the words slowly rather than let one's eyes gloss over the text of promotional messages, getting only those that are emotionally charged. And websites with easily obtained eye-catching visuals need far more than browsing to determine if the layouts, format and text contain the content needed to determine full meaning and credibility. When the information presented seems incomplete, inconsistent, very wordy or otherwise "too good", it is my recommendation that questions be asked and no actions taken until completely satisfactory answers are provided. **Kitty Antonik Wakfer MoreLife for the rational - http://morelife.org Reality based tools for more life in quantity and quality Self-Sovereign Individual Project - http://selfsip.org Rational freedom by self-sovereignty & social contracting Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=25865