X-Message-Number: 25894 From: Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:48:04 EST Subject: uploading again Both Thomas Donaldson and Yvan Bozzonetti keep ignoring what appear to me to be the main points. Thomas keeps repeating that wetware is complicated and dynamic, hence very hard to model electronically. That doesn't matter. In principle, any condition or process can be modeled to any desired degree of accuracy, even with a Turing tape. Yvan assumes that if you can model, you can upload--in the sense of having the "same" person in an electronic instantiation. But a model is only a description, and a description is not necessarily "equivalent" to the thing described. A description of a feeling is not a feeling. Robert Ettinger Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=25894