X-Message-Number: 26011 From: Subject: Living Will and Beyond Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:17:19 US/Eastern In CryoMessage #25915 James Clement offered a Living Will which might be suitable for cryonicists: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=25915 As a result of some prodding, I have decided to share on CryoNet what some of us in the Toronto, Canada cryonics Local Group have developed. The Living Will creates a written testament which can be used in a court of law, and which can also be used as guidance to an agent who could act on behalf of the patient. In a hospital situation, few people have time to examine a Living Will, but an agent is an active entity who can insist on attention. Therefore, a Living Will should be used in association with a Durable Power of Attorney for Health Care (or Power of Attorney for Personal Care, as it is called in Canada). With some input from me, Christine Gaspar (emergency nurse) and Bruce Waugh (lawyer) -- cryonicists all -- drafted a Power of Attorney for Personal Care, which is associated with a Living Will (guidance to the agent). The document includes references to Canadian statutes, which would obviously be inappropriate for the United States: old version: http://www.cryocdn.org/attorney.html The emphasis in that document is on maintaining life support until a cryonics emergency rescue team can be assembled and to withdraw life support once the team is ready. Christine advanced the position of maintaining a person on life support if there is no ischemic damage. I agreed with this. If I or Christine are on life support and recovery is unlikely, removal of life support and cryonics are ONLY to be undertaken if remaining on life support is likely to increase ischemic damage. The fact of being in a vegetative state is irrelevant. A person in cryostorage is in a vegetative state. If being on life support does not result in ischemic damage, then we would both prefer to remain in that state rather than be cryopreserved. The chances of medicine discovering a cure for the condition causing our vegetative state may be better than the chances of medicine discovering a way to revive us from cryostorage. To make this point more clear I modified the document. I removed the reference to the vegetative state and stressed the fact that life support should continue if no ischemic damage is being done. I also added a reference to other kinds of damage -- the most serious being to the brain or the blood vessels (damage to the latter would damage the former, anyway). I placed the new version of the document on the CSC website: new version: http://www.cryocdn.org/attorney2.html Christine also raised another complication, which I don't particularly want to concern myself with unless someone can suggest an easy solution. Namely, the definition of life-support. By her definition, life support can include something like intubation, which assists a person in breathing. Removal of this form of life support won't necessarily lead to immediate deanimation -- it could take hours or days to choke to death. It seems to me that this form of life support is far less common than the form associated with immediate deanimation upon removal. It is also not likely to lead to ischemic damage, and therefore would not be relevant. Even this leaves a few loose ends. There may be situations in which maintenance on life-support leads to increased ischemic damage and yet there is some (small) hope of recovery. Then the question might be *how much* ischemic damage and *how much* chance of recovery? And how does one assess that ischemic or septic damage is not being done? A person in a vegetative state can easily acquire infections. Another more likely problem is the availability of the person who is the Power of Attorney. Most of us are geographically mobile, so the Power of Attorney would probably have to be making an assessment and giving instructions by telephone. Would this be a problem? Will there be a problem when it crosses national boundaries? The document does not sufficiently address the problem of non-availability of the Power of Attorney. Ideally there should be a list (in prioritized order) of people who could take the role of Power of Attorney. Also, the authority of Power of Attorney ends at declaration of death. There should be some means of maintaining a Cryonics Surrogate after declaration of legal death -- someone who could have the authority to deal with problems and contingencies that might arise (NOT necessarily the next-of-kin). It simply is not possible to anticipate and give directions for every possible scenario with absolute precision. There is a far greater danger in making no arrangements at all because of intellectual paralysis over the incompleteness of the directives. I prefer to take the risk of incompleteness rather than the risk of doing nothing. Anyway, an incomplete directive can be revised in the future (case in point: attorney2, with attorney3 in the making). -- Ben Best Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=26011