X-Message-Number: 2612 From: (Thomas Donaldson) Subject: CRYONICS Re: Need Bibliography References Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 22:24:28 -0800 (PST) Hi. I hope you do well on your presentation. Here is a good suggestion (if you have the time): write to Alcor and buy their book CRYONICS: REACHING FOR TOMORROW. It contains a scientific paper on freezing damage, with references, and a lot of other useful stuff. I believe the price is still $9.00 US; if you can get on the net, as you must be able to to send your message, you can send email to It is probably the best survey of cryonics presently in existence --- those written by people who are not cryonicists tend far too much to focus on the sensational (GREAT MAMBO CHICKEN) or use the idea to put forward their own ideas (ENGINES OF CREATION). IF as a student you really can't afford $9.00, I have several copies of which I can send you one (by ordinary mail). But please try to buy it first; I don't have MANY copies. I do hope that you have noticed by now that most cryobiologists do NOT like cryonics. I don't know a good source for that, but will point out some things which can tell you something if you read through the lines. For instance, CRYOBIOLOGY (the journal) forbids any active cryonicist from publishing in it, regardless of the merit of their paper. Death is not an easy subject for most people, especially if you look at it up close. Among the references in the scientific paper in CRYONICS are references to the Suda paper in which Suda froze cat brains. Lots of other stuff too. Long long life, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=2612