X-Message-Number: 26372 From: "David Pizer" <> Subject: Ethics of Immortality Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:24:10 -0700 FlAVONIOD: Few religionists take "eternal life" seriously. PIZER: I just do buy this. How do you arrive at this concept? Do you have any numbers from some source? I don't have any numbers from any reporting source, but I have talked to many people who believe in god and heaven. Most of them Christians of some sort or others. They report to me that they are going to Heaven when they die. And for that reason alone they don't need cryoncics. FLAVONIOD: So no, I do not buy into the notion that it is a deeply-held faith in a religious eternal life that is keeping the general public from accepting cryonics. They do not accept cryonics for the same reason they also do not really solidly accept a spiritual life after death. The reason is that there is no proof, so far, that either type of immortality is achievable. PIZER: If you have over (or near) a billion Christians who want an afterlife in Heaven and think they are going to get it; and if they were not guaranteed such an afterlife by their church would probably seek it elsewhere, even if that is all the people we are talking about, that is still a significant number and even if it is just one person who loses out on the possible virtual, eternal life of cryonics because of faith in a religion that turns out false, that is one too many. So my take on your response is not so much that you have any advice about how to fix the problem, but that you don't even believe a problem exists. Thanks for your comments. David Pizer Content-Type: text/html; [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=26372