X-Message-Number: 2642 Date: 12 Mar 94 21:15:45 EST From: Mike Darwin <> Subject: CRYONICS Re: Brain Only Suspension To Will Dye: There is no problem with freezing your brain as long as you're prepared to have a mess made of it. I have removed lots of brains myself and seen a few good pathologists do it too. We currently have a brain-only patient here at BPI. He is missing part of histemporal lobe, both cortices are cut in multiple places and the tip of his frontal lobes is dangling by few blood vessels. His brain was removed CAREFULLY by a skilled pathologist who was a friend of his son who is also a skilled surgeon/biologist. They tried their best. Why do I say what I say about "making a mess of it?" 1) Unless you use specialized equipment chances are the brain will be removed with a Stryker vibratory saw (used for autopsies, casts, etc.). The almost invariable consequence of this is nice deep cuts 2-5 cm long into the cerebral cortex: usually the frontal or prefrontal and occipital and temporal lobes get gashed. These are not nice clean cuts; they look like they were made with a dull butter knife. 2) The dura is often adherent and it is tough rubbery stuff. The older you are the more likely you are to have adherent patches of dura. Consequently, areas of the cerebral cortex get peeled away with the dura when it is reflected. 3) It is not uncommon to have serious tearing injury to the cerebellum and the midbrain: often the midbrain ends up left in the head along with other pieces. The whole brain (which is VERY soft, even when chilled, has to be pulled up with some force to cut the connections under it: the spinal cord, optic chiasmata, vascular connections at the circle of Willis and so on. Keep in mind that an unsupported brain will develop internal tears if sat upon a table top. Brains normally float in cerebrospinal fluid. (Delicate things, brains.) 4) Even people who want to have their brains removed will have to do so AFTER CPA perfusion (of course they skip cryoprotection altogether as an alternative). So-called isolated brain perfusion experiments are usually done with the brain "on a plate" consisting of the cranial basin and the tails of the internal carotids and jugulars used for vascular access. This is done because prying the brain out of the skull with its vascular connections (all of which are UNDER it) intact is very difficult and in practice probably "impossible." 5) Because your brain will have to be perfused "in your head" your head will have to be perfused too. People's faces don't look real good after perfusion with multimolar glycerol solution. In fact, my bet is that your family would probably prefer the headless version, perhaps opening the lower half of the casket instead. (While this no comment on you as I've never met you, I feel compelled to observe that with some individuals there is much to recommend this approach to viewing anyway -- often for widely different reasons in each case). 6) Removing the brain means handling it and that means potentuially warming it up at points of contact AFTER it has been loaded with cryoprotectant. Furthermore, attempting to carefully carry out the dissection and remove the brain after perfusion will take TIME, lots of it. That equals extra injury from CPA toxcicity and delay. A large area of the cortical surface will also be exposed to warm air and bright (warm) lights during the surgergy to extricate it from your head. No doubt many of the problems above could be solved by someone really dedicated to doing so and willing to spend the time and money. Hiring a good neurosurgeon would be a great place to start -- but good luck there! I suggest you write Movieland Wax Museum in Buenea Park, CA. Find out if they can make a wax head from a deathmask and photos on short notice and what it would cost. We could then do a deathmask on your arrival using a dental casting product I'm familiar with, take a picture, and run it over to Movieland. Your family will be happy and you'll be, if you'll forgive the pun, *heading* towards tomorrow. Good luck getting sifned up. Incidentally, it needn't cost that much. If you're young I can probably get you signed up wih one of the cryonics group I contract with for a couple hundred bucks a year initially. Best Wishes, Mike Darwin Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=2642