X-Message-Number: 26436
From: "David Pizer" <>
Subject: Reply to Basie
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:58:48 -0700

BASIE SAID: Cryonics can only help those that are suspended properly. This means
death will always be there. This nonsense of some Utopia in the future where 
every one is happy thanks to futuristic medicine should be stopped. 

DAVID:  I do not think that anyone of cryonet has ever made the claim "everyone 
in the future will be happy thanks to futuristic medicine."  I also think that 
the evidence shows that things do get better overall over time.  If we on this 
forum did not believe that would we be signed up to try to obtain more life in 
the future.  

BASIE SAID:  It also means that religion will always be there as a force to 
reckon with whether 
one likes it or not. 

DAVID:  Even if that were true, would that be a good reason for us not to try to
correct any wrong claims they may be making?

BASIE:  We are in the future now. Doctors can not even cure a 
simple virus condition. More will evolve in the future.

DAVID:  Are you claiming that medicine has not made termendous advances and will
do even more in the future?

BASIE SAID:   Lets not forget the 
socialist atheists in the Soviet Union and other countries murdered more 
people than the Christians did. So much for the idea that atheist are good 

DAVID:  Even if this were true would that be a good reason not to try to make 
things better?

I don't see what you are trying to say here.  if you are saying that everything 
is not perfect and that is a good reason to quit trying to make things better, 
then you you are just plain wrong.

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