X-Message-Number: 26686 Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:33:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Skrecky <> Subject: 183'rd update on fly longevity experiments This is the 183'rd update of my fly longevity experiments. Average temperature was 22.7 C during this run. Estimated maximal longevity using the formula (363 - T*11.2) is 109 days. In run #165 I compared the joint effect of addition of various doses of citric acid both to breeding bottles, as well as to bottles used in the run itself. In that run an unusually high longevity characterized run bottles containing 1/8 tsp citric acid, that had been seeded from a breeding bottle which used a higher 1/4 tsp dosage. This may have been a chance effect due perhaps to a relative (but accidental) lack of pathogens in this bottle, or it may have been a real causal effect of citric acid, possibly due a direct antipathogen effect of the acid. This run seeks to take a second look at breeding bottle citric acid levels, while the breeding bottles are still too young to have yielded many offspring flies. A run bottle dosage of 1/8 tsp citric acid was found to be beneficial, when the breeding bottles contained either no, or a medium 1/8 tsp citric acid dosage. However in this run no benefit was seen when the breeding bottle containing citric at a higher 1/4 tsp dose was used. This high a level of acid has been observed to inhibit reproduction, so all the flies from this bottle might all be parents, with no offspring. I conclude that citric acid levels in breeding bottles have no significant effect on parent fly longevity. These same breeding bottles will be looked at again in run #187, after a longer incubation period, to test for offspring effects. Run #183 Percent Survival on Day supplement 12 20 30 38 44 51 59 68 _____________________________________________ citric (0) 0 tsp 61 44 39 33 6 6 0 - citric (0) 1/8 tsp 60 60 53 47 13 7 7 0 citric (0) 1/4 tsp 62 45 35 24 14 3 0 - citric (1/8) 0 tsp 58 32 26 11 5 5 0 - citric (1/8) 1/8 tsp 50 50 30 25 20 5 0 - citric (1/8) 1/4 tsp 92 77 23 15 8 0 - - citric (1/4) 0 tsp 68 53 37 32 16 5 5 0 citric (1/4) 1/8 tsp 68 37 32 21 21 5 0 - citric (1/4) 1/8 tsp 56 33 22 17 11 6 6 0 citric (1/4) 1/4 tsp 73 53 40 27 13 0 - - citric (1/4) 1/4 tsp 57 43 24 14 5 5 0 - Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=26686