X-Message-Number: 26807
From: 
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 13:19:45 EDT
Subject: Re: question re: timing of suspension vs. funding

In a message dated 8/13/2005 5:00:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
 writes:

Message  #26804
From: 
Subject: Cryonics Institute's 69th  Patient
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 02:38:17 US/Eastern

Shortly after 6am on Friday morning the Cryonics Institute  received a 
call from the son of an unfunded CI Member informing us that  his Member
mother had just been pronounced dead. Within 13 hours we had  received
$28,000 and the patient. The patient is currently cooling to  liquid nitrogen
temperature. This is CI's 69th patient, and the first  patient CI has
cryopreserved in 2005. More details will be released in THE  IMMORTALIST.

http://www.cryonics.org/info.html

-- Ben Best, President,   Cryonics
Institute




Hello, Ben, 
 
Thank you for above information on CI's 69th patient.
 
Regarding funding and suspension issues, may I respectfully ask a  question?
 
If a CI member is unfunded, what are the mechanics of funding at  
deanimation?  Does CI wait to confirm funding before suspension  protocols?
 
Based on some conversations you and I have had, I know this is challenge  you 
are working on.  But it would seem to me that someone who has some idea  they 
are terminal would get their funding "act" together PRIOR to actual  
pronouncement.  
 
But we know how it is human nature to procrastinate, and takes tremendous  
rational discipline to solidify all cryonics arrangements early, as most of  
those reading this message have done.
 
My point in asking is not to ask embarrassing questions in a public  forum.  
But to provide you a platform to further motivate those "putative  signups" 
with CI who do NOT have their funding in place.  (Irrespective of  whether we 

call them "cryonauts, cryoneers, unfunded cryonicists, or just plain  half-butt
cryonicists!:))
 
Especially if they are constantly and forcefully reminded that the quality  

and timing of their suspension is at risk, perhaps more will get their funding
issue handled early, when it not a time sensitive crisis.
 
On a separate posting, I will be announcing an enormous NEW funding option,  
suitable for both CI and ALCOR.  This will hopefully open a new era of  super 
reliable and hassle free cryonic funding.  
 
It is exciting enough, and has enough details, that it deserves its own  
dedicated posting.
 
This posting is about encouraging ANYONE with serious cryonics intentions  to 
get PROACTIVE and SERIOUS about putting SOLID funding in place.  And  doing 
this BEFORE it becomes a life threatening, desperate, time sensitive  crisis.  
 
To a long and happy life for all, (possibly excepting authoritarian  
kleptocrats),
 
Rudi Hoffman
 


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