X-Message-Number: 26919 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 19:17:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Skrecky <> Subject: 192'nd update on fly longevity experiments This is the 192'nd update of my fly longevity experiments. Average temperature was 25.9 C during this run. Estimated maximal longevity (EML) using the formula (363 - T*11.2) is 73 days. In run #177 urea at 1/16 & 1/8 tsp dosages outperformed both control bottles, while in run #179 vinpocetine at 60 mg did well. The current results indicate that the previous results were either chance findings, or the results of possible antipathogen effects. Pathogens may not have been an issue in the current run, since EML was reached by control flies. In the past I have found that controls are very hard to beat whenever they closely match EML. Conversely whenever a very great advantage over controls is found for a supplement, this advantage usually largely vanishes when EML is used as an alternative comparison. True anti-aging effects are a very rare finding. Run #192 Percent Survival on Day supplement 14 21 31 38 47 57 67 74 81 _____________________________________________ control one 80 67 53 47 40 13 0 - - control two 88 77 71 53 35 12 6 6 0 urea 1/64 tsp 91 46 36 36 18 9 9 0 - " 1/32 tsp 64 46 46 27 27 18 0 - - " 1/16 tsp 100 62 46 46 39 8 8 8 0 " 1/8 tsp 83 75 75 58 42 0 - - - vinpocetine 30 mg 100 67 33 33 22 11 11 0 - " 60 mg 83 50 25 25 0 - - - - " 120 mg 62 31 8 8 0 - - - - " 240 mg 0 - - - - - - - - Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=26919