X-Message-Number: 26961 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 19:13:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Skrecky <> Subject: 193'rd update on fly longevity experiments This is the 193'rd update of my fly longevity experiments. Average temperature was 25.8 C during this run. Estimated maximal longevity using the formula (363 - T*11.2) is 74 days. Humifulvate is a peat-based heavy metal chelator. I wouldn't expect this to be beneficial unless the fly food was contaminated with heavy metals. The null results indicate that 4-24 fly food is (probably) clean. Canadians are not allowed under current legislation to purchase vitamin K1 or K2 supplements, without a prescription. This completely unjustified legislation is currently under review, and now appears likely that 80 mcg pills may be allowed soon. In any case, by a fluke I recently did find *one* vitamin K1 supplement bottle in a local store. After reviewing the medical literature I had developed a high opinion of vitamin K and felt that a fly test was well warrented. The phylloquinone (K1) pills I found were very dilute (80 mcg), and had a much larger amount of stearic acid in each pill. Phylloquinone is itself much less bioactive than menaquinone (K2) in many of its effects, so I was skeptical about finding any positive effect. Nonetheless at the 41 day census the top two survivors were the bottles with the highest concentrations of K1. This positive result, with such a poor product makes me even more interested in trying menaquinone. If any American would like to try donating a few K2 pills for a fly test, please contact me off-list. Run #193 Percent Survival on Day supplement 15 22 31 41 51 58 65 _____________________________________________ control one 62 46 35 8 4 0 - control two 61 44 28 11 6 0 - humifulvate 19 mg 62 62 57 19 10 0 - " 38 mg 55 48 28 17 10 0 - " 75 mg 48 44 26 7 0 - - " 150 mg 59 26 22 15 7 4 0 licorice extract 100 mg 68 64 44 20 8 4 0 " 200 mg 81 58 35 23 12 0 - phylloquinone 80 mcg 67 53 30 17 10 7 0 " 160 mcg 72 53 28 16 9 0 - " 320 mcg 54 50 29 25 14 0 - " 640 mcg 50 39 12 8 0 - - " 1280 mcg 72 68 40 28 12 4 0 " 2560 mcg 76 60 52 32 20 8 0 seriphos 250 mg 62 50 27 23 15 0 - " 1000 mg 48 30 22 11 4 0 - vitamin B6 6.3 mg 46 39 27 12 3 0 - " 25 mg 54 39 35 15 4 0 - Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=26961