X-Message-Number: 27100
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:08:37 +0200
From: Eugen Leitl <>
Subject: Re: [CN] Fear Mongering +
References: <>

On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 01:34:45AM -0600,  wrote:

> Mark Plus, in a post in today's digest, treats us again to another dose of 
> unsupported "facts" about some "peak oil" paranoia.  The few references he 
> provides are links to websites which largely provide more of the same.
> 
> Unlike most of his posts, in this one he attempts to make a relevant link 
> to cryonics.  We might not be able to fly deanimated patients in portable 
> ice baths on planes, or get liquid nitrogen.

What purpose bears your missive? It contains no facts, but only increases
the hostility in the channel. Please, don't poison the well. 
 
> As usual, though, Plus provides "no way out" of his supposed problems.

Must each post here contain a complete treatise? That liquid nitrogen,
an industrial chemical largely used for steel production (which is moving
into the developing world) will become less available and more expensive
is hardly a new development. I'm sure the projected cost increases are 
already factored in the financial planning.

I'm unfamiliar with technology advances in ~-150 C refrigeration 
technology. Is anyone here following the trends, and e.g. has institutional
access to 


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=JournalURL&_cdi=5765&_auth=y&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md
or similiar literature? If you do, this list could use a summary
of options.
 
> So what are we to do, if all these awful things transpire?  Should we all 
> move to Arizona and buy land from his boss, the real estate mogul, suer of 
> churches, and believer in the atomic solar system?  Hey cowboys, let's 
> round up all those cryonicists so they can be near Alcor?
> 
> Are we to build our own self-sufficient liquid nitrogen machines out there 
> in the desert?
> 
> Well, I'm sure we'll eventually find our way.

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Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a>
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