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From: Kennita Watson <>
Subject: Re: Jonathan Despress...take my name off your conference list
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 07:28:42 -0700

When someone crosses the line from obnoxiousness to fraud,
it's time that he be removed from the list altogether.
There are other places for people to go to hear from
Jonathan Despres (again, when this list was created, it
was much more difficult for individuals to create sites
like nanoaging.com), and he can read the other messages
that are posted here even if he's not a list member.

I still don't like or use the rating system, but <surf>
I note that it does not have a rating category
"Fraudulent".  <surf> Nor does is there apparently any
way to find out what ratings a given message or a given
author have received.  It would be useful to find out
what ratings a message had received, and from whom, so
that (for example) someone who came across a message
with low ratings could see (in the archives) what it
had been rated by people with high ratings, as in:

    Message #666666
    <message>
    <category> <category>...: <name> <current rating>
    <category> <category>...: <name> <current rating>
    ...
    Message Rating: <number> or "none"
    Member Aggregate Rating: <number>

BTW, is a message rating by a person with a high
aggregate rating given more weight than a message
rating by a person with a low aggregate rating?  How
about there being some measure of the number of
rated messages so that (sigh, giving evildoers ideas)
someone can't subscribe, post one awesome message (or
not post at all), then start rating other people's
messages low to wreck their ratings (mind you, this
shouldn't work if the person being downrated has a
long history of highly-rated message, but I don't
know if that history is kept, either.  And can
people still rate their own messages?  This would
allow someone to rate his/her own message highly
even if other people rated them low, to bolster
their rating.  I guess even so one could subscribe
under two different names and have one rate the
other's messages.

Since I came up with these apparent flaws in the
system off the top of my head, I assume that there
are others (releasing my inner QA engineer), but
I'll get on with my day now.

Live long and prosper,
Kennita

> From: 
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:44:15 EDT
>
> I was just given the following link on an email by Steve Bridge.
>
> _http://www.nanoaging.com/cryoventure/cryoscientists.htm_
> (http://www.nanoaging.com/cryoventure/cryoscientists.htm)
>
> I was shocked to find that my name is listed as a speaker.
>
> I have NOT authorized this, nor will I attend this "Conference"  
> organized  by
> Jon Despress, nor do I wish to be affiliated in any way with JD or  
> nanoaging
> in ANY way, shape, or form.
>
> Jon, I know you still monitor cryonet, and I insist you remove my   
> name...and
> others who have not authorized their names...from your website.   You
> continue to be a menace...the "Ebola virus of cryonics."
>
> Rudi Hoffman

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