X-Message-Number: 27210 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:01:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Platt <> Subject: The time is right for a jointly agreed protocol References: <> The idea of setting our own standards in cryonics has been suggested many times but has never been pursued for the reasons stated by Brian Wowk. HOWEVER, the situation today has changed, since CI now does offer an (extra cost) standby-transport service, and thus has implicitly agreed that standby may be useful for people who want it and can afford it. CI also has pursued its own vitrification capability. Funding differences between CI and Alcor remain significant, but funding does not have to be part of a procedural protocol. I believe at this point the three organizations (Alcor, CI, and ACS) can in fact reach consensus on the procedures that should be followed IN A HYPOTHETICALLY IDEAL CASE. In other words, where the member is very well funded and chooses standby service, and where standby team members can be present before death is pronounced. Suspended Animation already has a written protocol defining standards of practice, as part of its contract with the Cryonics Institute, and the same protocol is applied to ACS cases. Since the protocol is derived largely from Alcor protocol, any differences are minor. All we need to add is a great big caveat: Treatment and procedures may be simplified considerably in cases where the member is not sufficiently funded or has chosen a simplified protocol. This might seem to be such a big caveat, it makes the whole thing pointless, but I don't see it that way. If we can start by defining the ideal case and then work backward, this is a very valuable beginning. Being able to show a jointly agreed "model protocol" to prospective regulators would be very useful indeed. Since Suspended Animation hopes to offer basically the same service to all organizations, it may be in a good position to help in this initiative. --Charles Platt speaking in this instance on behalf of Suspended Animation. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=27210