X-Message-Number: 27296 From: "mike99" <> Subject: RE: [wta-talk] Telephonists needed for NanoAging Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:19:31 -0600 Jonathan, Your NanoAging Institute is just you and your web page. Your misrepresentations, misstatements, misleading statements, and unfulfilled promises would fill a book. Or an email list. In fact, the CryoNet archive is bursting with exactly that. Real cryonicists have been outraged by the way you have tricked reputable people in granting you email interviews and have misrepresented yourself in other ways. Even worse, your website misleadingly claims that your "NanoAging Cryonics Service" can offer cryosuspension services; the statement that you cannot do it at this time is included as a disclaimer, but it is far less prominent than the dramatic operating room photograph you include. The relevant text from your page is copy&pasted below: from http://www.nanoaging.com/cryonics.html .....<BEGIN QUOTED MATERIAL>............................................................... ***Status: We cannot handle any cases right now*** For Emergency Tel: 1 819 699 2884 (We can still try to help) Human cryopreservation (cryonics) is an experimental procedure whereby patients who no longer can be kept alive with today's medical abilities are preserved at low temperature for treatment in the future. NanoAging Cryonics Fees We do only neuro preservation (Our reason for this: the cryoprotectant will better reach the entire brain) $5,000/day - For the Standby Team. If you are on the verge of death, and you want someone to remain on standby, it will cost $5000/day $50,000 - NanoAging fee for perfusion and long-term storage. $200 000 for the first customer. ....<END OF QUOTED MATERIAL>.................................................................. I am utterly shocked at your arrogance, hubris and chutzpah! You cannot offer suspension services, yet you include a price list? You are persona non grata among real cryonics organizations, and yet you give out your telephone number and offer to help people with cryonic suspension services? I am signed up for cryonics. I know how tenuous the whole cryonics situation is, especially with the poor public perception of the procedure and those who engage in it. The ever-present threat of legal action against cryonics organizations is only exacerbated by devious swindlers like you. Your witless self-promotion may be endangering the future cryonic suspensions, revivals, and eventual immortal lives of countless people. At one time I thought you were merely a misguided young man with good intentions. Now I suspect you have darker motives. Regards, Michael LaTorra "For any man to abdicate an interest in science is to walk with open eyes towards slavery." -- Jacob Bronowski "Experiences only look special from the inside of the system." -- Eugen Leitl Member: Board of Directors, World Transhumanist Association: www.transhumanism.org Board of Directors, Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies: http://ieet.org/ Extropy Institute: www.extropy.org Alcor Life Extension Foundation: www.alcor.org Society for Universal Immortalism: www.universalimmortalism.org President, Zen Center of Las Cruces: www.zencenteroflascruces.org > -----Original Message----- > From: > [mailto:]On Behalf Of Jonathan Despres > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 11:21 AM > To: > Subject: [wta-talk] Telephonists needed for NanoAging > > > Because of my disease called Social Anxiety or Social Phobia, I would > need a telephonist. I hate to call people over the phone. I would need > a telephonist able to do 3 or 4 calls per week. The aim of these calls > would be to put in shape my cryonics company. > > > I dont have money for this job yet, but I could refund you when I get > a customer, or if I get an investment. I could also give you some > share of the company if your prefer. We could also split the profit in > both. Personally I build this company for free. > > > Let me know if you want, my email is I am living in > Trois-Rivieres, in Quebec, 1 hour from Montreal > > _______________________________________________ > wta-talk mailing list > > http://www.transhumanism.org/mailman/listinfo/wta-talk > Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=27296