X-Message-Number: 27307 Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:56:43 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Davis <> Subject: Re: Reanimation experiments Message #27300 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:40:36 -0400 From: Francois <> Subject: Reanimation experiments Regarding the development of reliable reanimation techniques, Francois asks: > Yet, how exactly are the needed experiments to be done? > We can't experiment on animals, because they don't have the level of sentience we would need to preserve and restore. Since the first logical reanimation standard might be the restoration of structural integrity, followed closely by resumption of 'aliveness' then animal experiments would be fine. Imagine perfecting the process of freezing and restoring mice. One could even evaluate the mice for retention of learned skills and memories. > A reanimation procedure could work fully on a dog's or even a chimpanzee's brain and still fail on the more complex human brain. All brain's are made of cells, and have more similarities than differences. It doesn't seem unreasonable to conclude that if you can get a wide variety of brains back up and running after the freeze-thaw process, then you're well on your way to accomplishing the same with a human brain. > We can't experiment on humans unless they volunteer, and even then it would not be ethical to risk inflicting massive brain damage on them for the sake of scientific research. At some point the success in non-humans and the confidence in understanding the process gained thereby will justify a human test. Perhaps on some miscreant, condemned criminal, former president, Osama bin Frozen, etc. Best, Jeff Davis "Everything's hard till you know how to do it." Ray Charles __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=27307