X-Message-Number: 27307
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:56:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Davis <>
Subject: Re: Reanimation experiments

Message #27300
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:40:36 -0400
From: Francois <>
Subject: Reanimation experiments

Regarding the development of reliable reanimation
techniques, Francois asks:

> Yet, how exactly are the needed experiments to be

> We can't experiment on animals, because they 
don't have the level of sentience we would need to
preserve and restore.

Since the first logical reanimation standard might be
the restoration of structural integrity, followed
closely by resumption of 'aliveness' then animal
experiments would be fine.  Imagine perfecting the
process of freezing and restoring mice.  One could
even evaluate the mice for retention of learned skills
and memories.

> A reanimation procedure could work fully on a dog's
or even a chimpanzee's brain and still fail on the
more complex human brain. 

All brain's are made of cells, and have more
similarities than differences.  It doesn't seem
unreasonable to conclude that if you can get a wide
variety of brains back up and running after the
freeze-thaw process, then you're well on your way to
accomplishing the same with a human brain.

> We can't experiment on humans unless they volunteer,
and even then it would not be ethical to risk 
inflicting massive brain damage on them for the sake
of scientific research. 

At some point the success in non-humans and the
confidence in understanding the process gained thereby
will justify a human test.  Perhaps on some miscreant,
condemned criminal, former president, Osama bin
Frozen, etc.

Best, Jeff Davis

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                           Ray Charles

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