X-Message-Number: 27310
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:17:11 -0500
From: Thomas Donaldson <>
Subject: For J. Davis, and Francois: on revival

I am glad that at least one other commentator on Cryonet realized
that monkeys, dogs, and cats must be seen as conscious. As someone
who has spent time writing about the relation of what we know 
about brains to the problems of cryonics, I would speak even more
definitely here: mammals are conscious, and that consciousness
provides plenty of evidence that if we can revive monkeys then
we can revive humans too.

Reviving rats (for instance) would probably work the same way, but
they do differ from us in ways which monkeys do not. Their brains
and systems use their nose much more than we or monkeys do. Nothing
keeps us, of course, from testing our methods of revival on both
rats and monkeys.

The main point I'm making here is not just that monkeys, dogs, and
cats are conscious, but that neuroscientists have looked at 
these issues in detail and support that conclusion. I've been 
reviewing various books on consciousness in CRYONICS and hope to
do so further. If you belong to a different cryonics society than
you might consider my newsletter PERIASTRON, which discusses work
on consciousness in every issue (not theoretical but experimental).
Not only that, but I believe you don't have to be a member of 
Alcor to subscribe to CRYONICS, either

         Best wishes and long long life for all,

               Thomas Donaldson

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