X-Message-Number: 27325 From: "John de Rivaz" <> Subject: landmark gift to the Methusala Mouse Prize Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:47:36 -0000 The fact that there has been much enthusiasm for the Methusala Mouse project should not be seen as an opportunity for all and sundry to start trying to collect money for their own ideas. The people running the Methusala Mouse project have credentials, and they and their project are well thought of amongst cryonics and life extension supporters. http://www.methuselahmouse.org/ I would urge everyone who is 1. approached to give money for other projects 2. or to allow their name to be used on a board of directors, advisors or whatever to email the help section of their cryonics organisation or life extension group to see if the proposed project is known or not. Just entering the name of the project or organisation into Google may not help unless you are diligent -- often bogus projects are well spammed on the web as well as by emails, and finding out the truth may not be that easy. Both Alcor and CI have members' forums - if you are a member of either you should join the relevant forum, mailing list, or group and can discuss any proposed project there. Similarly, the Life Extension Foundation and similar groups usually have forums or help email addresses. Boards of directors and advisors should be composed of people actively directing and advising. If you are told that "to be on our list won't involve you in any work" beware - they just want your name to add credulity. If you are asked to be on a board of directors, at least ensure that the organisation has insurance against director liability - you could be entering into a partnership that makes you legally liable for what the others may do, such as borrowing money. Even if every single idea did have merit, there is also the problem of dilution. Each one that starts means that others get fewer gifts. I would say this to any budding cryonics entrepreneur. Rather than start your own project, it would often be better to propose the idea to the cryonics or life extension group you support. Be patient - it may take a while for the group as a whole to take it up. If you can at the same time say something like "I think X would be a good idea, here is a substantial sum of money I would be willing to give you if you take it up" and/or "I am highly qualified in <name of relevant discipline> and I am willing to work for free on this idea if you take it up within your organisation" then obviously they will take your idea more seriously. If you have no money and no skills you idea may still have merit. But it should be up to someone else within the cryonics or life extension group who is qualified to put their name to it and start it up. But if you genuinely want to benefit the movement rather than yourself, then the fact that your name is only known to a few as the introducer of the idea should not matter. -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and more Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=27325