X-Message-Number: 27334 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:00:06 -0800 (PST) From: John Despres <> Subject: Message from the STOP DESPRES Committee --0-1316926917-1131336006=:89162 Message from the STOP DESPRES Committee (Formally, "The Ad Hoc Committee to Protect Cryonics from Jonathan Despres") Numerous messages have been posted on CryoNet warning that Jonathan Despres could lead to the discrediting of cryonics and the death of cryonics patients http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=25953 http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=27135 http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=27193 http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=27049 http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=27057 http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=27296 Despres has contacted the most influential people in cryonics and life extension and duped many of them into being on the Board of Advisors or Directors of his bogus NanoAging Institute. He solicits money for dubious schemes which he would be incompetent to execute even if he were an honest man, which he is not. He discredits cryonics to influential non-cryonicists who might otherwise take us seriously. He has risked more lives and money by offering cryonics services which he is totally incapable of delivering. According to his own report, Despres has already offered cryonics services with the result that the son of a woman seeking those services ended up cremating his mother rather than cryopreserving her because of Jonathan's incompetence http://www.network54.com/Forum/291677/message/1129227232/Answer Although his current "service" is temporarily not functional (we worry about the criterion for activation), it seems worrisomely close to reactivation (Despres has twice before offered cryonics service with little concern about readiness). http://www.nanoaging.com/cryonics.html Jonathan has "reformed" repeatedly, but has repeatedly reverted to the same patterns of misrepresentation with only a short period of delay. We believe that COld Cutter is mistaken in calling Despres a Liar in cases where he is simply having delusionary temper tantrums http://www.network54.com/Forum/291677/message/1130977743/Liar%2C+Liar%2C+Pants+on+Fire Jon vehemently denies current culpability. In response to every presentation to Jonathan of evidence of his wrongdoing, he issues a fierce denial, an assertion without evidence. http://www.network54.com/Forum/291677/message/1131070585/Im+no+longer+a+liar%2C+a+vandal%2C+a+spammer%2C+and+a+lunatic We believe that Jonathan is sincere in his denials, and that this is further evidence of his disconnection from reality. In light of the evidence that Jonathan is currently being treated for a psychiatric condition, we find it particularly worrisome that he has attempted to illegally obtain a gun on the internet. http://groups.google.com/group/can.talk.guns/browse_thread/thread/3bc2702150348f3d/49820e7b524609e6?tvc=2&q=nanoaging&hl=en#49820e7b524609e6 Given his hostile outbursts against many people in the cryonics community, we are concerned about the use to which Despres may have wanted to put this gun. We believe that Jonathan is sincere in his commitment to cryonics, although his repeated claims that it will make him a billionaire makes us question his motives. We are of the opinion that Jonathan does not believe that his schemes are fraudulent or that they misrepresent his capabilities. But we believe that his sincerity is a manifestation of criminal insanity. Although we can sympathize with the delusionary state and lack of real responsibility of an insane person, we feel that our first concern should be the safety of those endangered by the criminality. We believe that it is a grave mistake to believe that Jonathan Despres can be or should be ignored. We believe that he will not go away and constitutes a real danger to cryonics. What can you do against this hazard? First, DO NO serve on his so-called Boards of Directors or Advisors. Warn others not to serve. If you know of anyone who is currently on these Boards, please contact those people and urge them not to be on the Boards. http://nanoaging.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=6 http://www.nanoaging.com/cprize/directors.html Second, use whatever influence you can to have Despres banned from forums. Do not grant him interviews and encourage others not to grant him interviews. If possible request that those who have been interviewed have the interviews withdrawn. Third and MOST IMPORTANT, do what you can do nullify the influence of his website. Kinkos and other outlets currently block access to NanoAging.com website and such blockage should be increased. If possible it would be good to influence on ISPs not to host the NanoAging.com website. Suggestions along this line have already been made. http://www.network54.com/Forum/291677/thread/1130979628/Disarm%2C+don%27t+persecute We agree with Cold Cutter that because Jonathan Despres is criminally insane, that it makes no sense to persecute him. This only inspires sympathy from bystanders, such as the response of Charles Platt who characterizes Despres as a "scapegoat". ("Find a whipping boy who is marginally less defensible, and pick on him.") Cycles of accusations and denials with Despres accomplish nothing, and show a lack of understanding that Jonathan is profoundly mentally disturbed and not capable of reasoning. Despres is apparently already getting psychiatric help and psychiatric medication, but this has been of little benefit to cryonics. The first priority should be to protect the cryonics community, not to attack someone with a mental handicap. Please assist us in this effort. The life you save may be your own! 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