X-Message-Number: 27357 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 08:46:47 -0500 From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: a partial answer to Leitl To Eugen Leitl (and Kennita Watson, a bit): Even to suspend someone we want their temperature much lower than the review you quoted in your older message. The place to look for what's been done to bring down people's temperature (prior to doing work with them) is work done prior to heart surgery... and of course the work by cryonicists. One major effect of bringing the temperature down to just above freezing is that the only kind of damage that can occur at low temperatures is mechanical. By attempting to bring someone down low enough WITHOUT freezing them, you have a good chance at avoiding mechanical damage too ... why there is such an interest in vitrification. As you might guess, vitrification at a low enough temperature isn't easy, either. As for damage due to a low temperature, I would not expect any at all except for that due to mechanical injury. In that sense I don't understand why you try to separate the different damages for a suspension patient. Finally, as for sending something from PERIASTRON, there is nothing I have that wouldn't take up far too much space on Cryonet. I will try to send you a list of books to read next issue of Cryonet. Best wishes and long long life for all, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=27357