X-Message-Number: 27458 From: "Jordan Sparks" <> Subject: Dr. de Grey on 60 Minutes Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:19:27 -0800 Did anyone else watch it? The first thing that struck me is that he needs some dental work to correct his terrible lisp. I know that's not entirely fair of me since it's unrelated to the main topic, but I think it says something about his credibility if he neglects his teeth. The next thing that struck me is that he's simply far too optimistic about the time frame. I thought it was interesting that both of the other scientists they interviewed were skeptical. Yet, when pressed, their only objection seemed to be that it wouldn't happen in the immediate future. They did not seem to be able to think about the possibilities beyond the next few decades. The impression I got was that they had no problem with de Grey's science, but they just couldn't see humanity solving the difficult engineering obstacles anytime soon. This is also the case with cryonics. Most people don't seem to be able to extrapolate beyond a few decades into the future. Humans are simply not used to having to plan that far into the future. So really, cryonicists and non-cryonicists don't disagree that much about current capabilities. What we disagree on is what the distant future will hold. One more thing... Doesn't the ability to extrapolate hundreds of years into the future represent a higher level of intelligence? As everyone knows, it's our ability to think about the bigger picture and consequences which separates us from animals who act on instinct. The farther into the future we can plan, and the better we can extrapolate the consequences of each action, the more intelligence it demonstrates. That should be one of our primary goals as transhumanists, to improve our models of the world, especially as tools of prediction. Jordan Sparks Content-Type: text/html; [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=27458