X-Message-Number: 27486 From: Subject: Apology to David Verbecke Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:18:11 US/Eastern I apologize to David Verbecke for deleting his message containing his question about animal experiments. We at CI are doing nothing illegal, but even in being legal there is much to worry about concerning animal rights activists. I experienced first-hand the animal rights activists inside and outside the courtroom at Boca Raton, Florida and the terrible effect it had on Suspended Animation. For this reason CI has its research lab in a separate building from our cryonics facilities. I worry that this may not be enough and I worry about calling attention to this worry. But this has blown-up in my face and I am forced to call attention to our worry. Our research has utilized rats and sheep heads procured from a slaughterhouse. We would not work on fresh large animals because we are not licensed to do so and we would not want to risk the adverse publicity. We believe that brain tissue in rats is the same as brain tissue in humans and that full perfusion of rat brain tissue with vitrification solution vitrifies the same as fully perfused human brain tissue. Full saturation of brain tissue is our end-point for perfusion. We have perfused dogs of our Members, but we cannot do destructive testing on their brain tissue because the perpose is cryopreservation for long-term storage. John de Rivaz and I created the Cryonics Institute Forum as a place for open dialog between CI Members. It would be hypocritical to not permit open dialog. This is the most gross act of censorship I have exercised as moderator of this forum. I apologize deeply for this. As I said, it blew-up in my face. I saw the message, wanted to discuss it with David and deleted it because I feared John de Rivaz might release it before I could discuss the matter with David. I sent a message to David, but instead of replying to me he posted to CryoNet. Although I value openness, I also believe that openness is a luxury of peace, liberty and trust. I am privy to innumerable confidences that I cannot divulge. In a state of war, providing information to the enemy concerning vulnerabilities is tantamount to suicide. Cryonics is in a fight for its survival, and animal rights activists aren't the only ones who seek to destroy us. Survival is a higher priority than openness. I wish it were otherwise. As this example has shown, however, attempts to prevent exposure of vulnerabilities often lead to even greater exposures. I will attempt to be forthright in answering questions about animal experiments. -- Ben Best, President, Cryonics Institute Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=27486