X-Message-Number: 2749
Date: 12 May 94 03:13:30 EDT
From: Mike Darwin <>
Subject: CRYONICS horseshit rumors

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FROM:    Mike Darwin, 75120,575
TO:      Steve Bridge, INTERNET:
DATE:    07-May-94 at 11:55:33

SUBJECT: horseshit rumors

Steve, 

You may pass this to the Board and/or post on CRYONET as you choose.


Recently Alcor performed a suspension under very trying circumstances:
circumstances that would have been a challenge to anyone anywhere at any
time.  I became aware of the suspension and a FEW of the inescapable
logistic and technical problems that accompanied it.  I offered any help I
could and made a number of suggestions both technical and logistic which
may or may not have been of use.  When I was appraised of the situation
Alcor seemed to be doing the best it could to deal with the situation at
that point.  My help was NOT asked for and may even have been annoying or
counterproductive, although I hope this was not so.

I post this message because I was astonished to hear that a member of
another cryonics organization was calling Alcor members and indicating
that an individual or individuals on the Alcor suspension team "had to
call Mike Darwin for help during Alcor's last suspension."  Here I feel
it proper and just to drop all pretense of tact and good breeding and
just say bluntly: "That is a complete LIE and total load of shit."

But I will go further (this time with some measure of tact of and good
breeding) and make the following points (especially to the person or
person(s) involved in distributing this kind of untruth:

1) Unless you were a party to this case or have your facts straight, don't
run your mouth off about things you know less than nothing about.

2) Such nasty communications serve no purpose except to make a difficult
situation WORSE.  The break is over.  WHAT EXACTLY do you expect to gain
by protracted nastiness?  Do you think this will win you any members? 
You're dreaming if you do -- and take it from one who knows -- it will
turn out to be a nightmare.

3) There are many good, hard-working, sincere and talented people at
Alcor.  I believe that some of these people feel at least part of the
same way about me.  It would be really nice if we could get past the crap
and poltics and deal with each other, even if it's on little practical
things like sharing costs on supplies and sharing information that will
help ALL of us.

4) You (and you and I BOTH know who you are) have done nothing to help
further this situation.  In fact, I will go so far as to say that you
have CERTAINLY shot yourself in the foot since making the staff and
management at Alcor angry and disrespectful of you and your cryonics
organization (not to mention me) can serve NO useful purpose and in fact
makes MY job (which incidentally includes doing a good job of freezing
YOU should the need arise) that much more difficult and costly.

5) I am in business.  You are screwing with my business.  I do NOT
appreciate that one little bit.  By making it more difficult to deal with
Alcor you raise my costs and reduce my access to useful information (and
vice versa for Alcor, which incidentally, doesn't help YOUR friends and
loved ones who are still signed up with or in storage at Alcor either). 
So cut the crap, OK?

That is really all I have to say.  Anyone with any questions should call
Alcor at 800-367-2228.

Mike Darwin

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