X-Message-Number: 27541 From: "John de Rivaz" <> References: <> Subject: Re: #27539: Why overseas cryonicists need to relocate -- NOW. [Mark Plus] Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:11:19 -0000 Mark Plus' continued efforts to concentrate cryonicists to wherever he lives needs some positive inducements, not continued references to media scare stories. Most thinking people now disregard media scare stories as commercial activity designed to sell newspapers, advertising time on tv, or acquire research grants. No doubt there is some truth in a few of the stories, but it is so buried in all this career advancement it is elusive. Although it is a novel, Michael Crighton's "State of Fear" is well researched and actual references are given to real events (as opposed to the dramatic events in the novel). Chrissie and I can recommend it as entertainment, and I suspect it can also be used to gain a perspective on these media scare stories. If Mr Plus is serious about his plans to concentrate cryonicists in one place, he should make wherever he lives sound enticing, and post helpful articles and/or links about what people need to do to emigrate. Mind you, many overseas cryonicists like where they live and have family ties. No one in cryonics has sure and certain knowledge that it will work for anyone. There is also an advantage to the concept of cryonics to have centres in different legislatures. It reduces the risk of no one surviving because of closure by authoritarians. At the moment there are no facilities other than in the USA. If Mr Plus does manage to concentrate an appreciable number of people there, then this will set back the date when facilities appear elsewhere. -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and more Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=27541