X-Message-Number: 27586 From: "John de Rivaz" <> Subject: Re: [CN] CryoNet State of fear Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 15:15:30 -0000 Although I introduced the novel "State of Fear", it was part of the thread that has been running for years, maybe even decades, maintained by Mark Plus using fear as a means of getting people to move their lives to be near wherever he lives and form a concentration of cryonicists at that place. Of course I welcome the review that was published here, and I love the title given to the thread, "CryoNet State of Fear" which sums it all up very nicely. Crighton's novel brings the subject of control of people justified by global warming issues into debate in the same way Dan Brown's "The da Vinci Code" brings the subject of control of people justified by religious faith. Global warming is more interesting because it relies on measurement rather than faith, but measurements are open to interpretation. Unfortunately such interpretations are often biased by desire for money and power. I do agree that lots of articles here about global warming would be off topic. No doubt there are Yahoo groups and other media where these issues can be discussed, but a lot of time would have to be devoted to do the subject justice. Society is now beginning to realise that there are practical solutions that I was aware of in the 1980s that involve less control not more. [mass production of the means of decentralised power generation] Someone who can make their voice heard has spoken now and good luck to them. For more details of the present proposals please see here: http://www.newscientist.com/channel/mech-tech/mg18925351.400.html Although that is was not about cryonics, the same issue has an article about hibernation that may be of interest to more cryonet readers. This isn't exactly cryonics either, but there are similarities: Suspended animation: putting life on hold There is a strange state between being dead and alive that could one day save your life, as New Scientist discovers more on: http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/mg18925351.200.html Finally, I would like to close by suggesting that cryonicists are very vulnerable to people seeking control of others by force, physical and/or financial. Therefore any movement or subject that includes physical force is a risk factor to the "Drake Equation" of cryonics. Fortunately decentralised power generation is enabling not restricting. We many not be so lucky next time. -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and more Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=27586