X-Message-Number: 27604 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:02:13 -0500 From: Daniel Crevier <> Subject: How I stopped worrying about uploading References: <> There is a point of view that drastically simplifies all these discussions we've been having about identity: it is to consider that sameness is not an ontological property. Going back to the example of the continually refilled cup of coffee: the cup in the morning and the cup in the afternoon are not the same or different, they just are. "Same" and "different" are our own constructs. They are just tags that we mentally apply to things. I believe that however essential and necessary they may appear, our reasons for applying those tags have purely pragmatic origins. It makes sense to say that B is the same as A because, in so doing, we can infer useful properties about B. Evolution saw to it that we got wired to do this. I decide that a person I meet today is the same as the one I met yesterday because it facilitates my interactions with her. This way, I can infer that she will remember certain things and behave in certain ways. Even if I'd never heard of Socrates, I would probably decide that my entirely rebuilt boat is the same boat as before the reconstruction because if it is, I'll keep on owning it. I know that there will be an interruption in my consciousness when I go to sleep tonight. Yet I decide that the person who will wake up in my brain tomorrow will be the same as me today because otherwise, I'd go sleepless. Likewise, it is entirely up to me to decide whether my uploaded or reconstructed self would be the same person as me. If it has my memories and behavior, I choose to decide that it would be. It's as simple as that. Daniel Crevier Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=27604