X-Message-Number: 27680 From: "Jordan Sparks" <> Subject: Ben's survey Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 08:10:24 -0800 Nice survey, Ben. I'm the one who made the comment about the distinction between infinite and very very long lifespans. When many people, including myself, say infinite, we mean for all practical purposes unless there is a huge disaster or unless the universe dies a cold death. Because your question did not qualify infinite with "practically" or "nearly", then the question was asking me to speculate about the fate of the universe, which is something that no human is properly equipped to do. It is not preposterous to think that science can produce nearly infinite lifespans in the range of trillions of years. The large spread of answers on question 16 is completely understandable. People are not disagreeing about the amount of damage, but rather about the amount of damage that they find acceptable. Rephrasing it as one of the following would have produced a much tighter spread: 1. What do you think is the maximum time a clinically dead (no heartbeat) person could go without cooling or cardiopulmonary support after which they will suffer some brain damage? (here's your 6 minute to 3 hour group) 2. What do you think is the maximum time a clinically dead (no heartbeat) person could go without cooling or cardiopulmonary support after which 50% of their identity will be lost? (here's the rest of the responses. Each person plugged in their own % based on personal preferences, with the 'any remains ever' group either accepting nearly 100% loss of identity or hoping for better technology. I think I answered 24 hours based on an estimated 50%-75% identity loss, although I would probably tolerate more.) Jordan Sparks Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=27680