X-Message-Number: 27738 Subject: FDGD 2006 Survey Analysis/Commentary (LONG) From: Kennita Watson <> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:37:50 -0800 --Apple-Mail-6--772770621 delsp=yes; format=flowed Here's the data I gathered from this year's survey. For inveterate data masseurs, I've attached the Excel spreadsheet with the raw data I'm working from, and the analysis from last year (for trends). Cheers, Kennita FDGD 2006 Survey Analysis/Commentary 80 surveys returned, all usable (about the same as last year). I might get some more if I had more help so one person could be administering surveys while the other talked with people. (More help than that would allow some people to see some of the festivities.) 59 with contact info (50 last year) -- I attribute the increase to being more clear about not putting them on mailing lists, etc., and to pointing out the Cryobear (excellent outreach tool). Only 13 gave email addresses, which is no major loss since I'd promised not to send more than one email anyway. As before, I plan to send everyone notice of whether or not they won a prize, with how the winners were chosen, how they can get the prizes for themselves if they didn't win, and my email and Web site. I think I have enough envelopes, so 39 cents times 59 people ~ $23; not a lot compared to hotel, airfare, food, ground transport, Cryobear, and chocolate. I'll just bear the pain of filling out the 59 address labels. Any computer-based survey would not be FDGD-specific. I don't see getting FDGD surveys online. Respondents 44 Female, 35 Male, 1 Unknown (last year 33 Female, 18 Male, 29 Unknown -- I had checkoffs for it this time; a few left it blank, but it was obvious from the name). I'll do question-by-question commentary as before, with comparisons to last year. Some questions and/or answer sets are different, so comparison is impossible. Many differences are statistically insignificant given the sample size, but I mention some of them anyway. Frozen Dead Guy Days 2006 Cryonics Awareness/Attitudes Survey Questions About Grandpa Bredo 1) Do you think Grandpa Bredo has been properly cryopreserved? 12 _Yes 30 _No 38 _Don't know There were many who came by the booth who knew nothing about cryonics, some who had only watched the "Grandpa's Still In the Tuff Shed" movie, and some to whom it didn't matter because they felt it could never work anyway. The word "properly" allows for interpretation, too. I think it would make sense to have a big sign behind the booth with concise definitions of cryonics and cryopreservation, with or without reference to FDGD. 2) What do you think the chances are that science will ever allow us to revive Grandpa Bredo? 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% 38 from 0-10% 14 20-40% 13 50% (the "I don't know" answer) 8 60-80% 5 90-100% The people who give him less than 50% outnumber those who give him even odds or better by 2 to 1. This is OK with me, Venturism aside. What I was looking for was the spread between this and the answers to Q11-Q13, which demonstrate that people see the difference in the chances afforded by modern cryonics procedures. 3) If >0%, how many years do you think it will be before he is revived? 4 _<20 16 _20-50 15 _50-100 13 _100-200 1 _200-500 2 _>500 Two people who said 0% to Q2 answered Q3 too (they were the only ">500" people). I think I could combine the two and alleviate confusion by having a "Never" choice on Q3. Basically, people figure that if we can revive him at all, we can do it in the next 200 years. 4) Do you think Grandpa Bredo should be: (choose one) 27 _ left where he is? 4 _ removed from dry ice and buried or cremated? 7 _ taken to a cryonics facility and stored in liquid nitrogen? 1 _ moved to a more prominent and easy-to-reach location? 33 _ handled however the family wants? 2 _ other (specify) .? 5 _ no opinion By far the majority seem content to butt out (leave him where he is or let the family decide, which are effectively the same thing, or offer no opinion). One "other" asked "What did HE want before dying?"; the other said "whatever you want, it makes no difference". I think they would have fit into one of the other categories and saved the short-answer problems if I had left the "other" choice off. The LN2 people presumably recognize its superiority for cryopreservation, and have a "better late than never" outlook. I presume the "buried or cremated" people are in a "free his soul" camp (heaven or reincarnation). Questions About Frozen Dead Guy Days These questions suffered from being crammed onto one line each so that the survey wouldn't run more than 2 pages. Next year I think I'll answer more of the matters of fact on the display, which will free up space (and make the survey more inviting). Note: Even though the numbers of Maybes are distressingly similar, no one copped out and just answered Maybe ("I don't know") to every question. 5) The Frozen Dead Guy Days trivialize cryonics and make it look ridiculous. 2 Yes / 56 No / 22 Maybe It's good to see that No outnumbers Yes and Maybe together by more than 2 to 1. I think being separated from the proceedings helps, and I think that a more professional-looking banner and literature (applicable to venues other than FDGD) would help even more. 6) People serious about cryonics might attend the Frozen Dead Guy Days. 45 Yes / 8 No / 27 Maybe Not as overwhelmingly positive, I think partly because the question can be read in multiple ways. I may come up with a better way to phrase it, or separate it into two questions. 7) I feel more positive towards cryonics with a cryonicist here to explain it. 37 Yes / 16 No / 27 Maybe Not everyone knew what "cryonicist" meant; one person asked. 9 of the Noes also said 0% on Q2, which suggests that their minds are made up and nothing I could say would help. I asked for it; I solicited surveys even from people who warned me that they disagreed with my standpoint. 8) The media will use the Frozen Dead Guy Days to give cryonics a bad name. 12 Yes / 43 No / 23 Maybe I think this is the source of many cryonicists' unease with a cryonics presence at the event. However, note that the bad-name- giving is independent of whether a cryonicist is present. In future years it might be helpful to ask if having a cryonicist here (to explain the differences) makes it easier or harder for the media to do the bad-name-giving. 9) Cryonics patients and the Frozen Dead Guy are pretty much the same. 15 Yes / 42 No / 20 Maybe It's good that most people said No, but both a better-worded question and more education on the differences could help. Note that some people who knew nothing to the extent of not having seen the film, spoken to me, or read any of the literature took the survey, so their Maybe answers might easily become Noes. Some of the Yeses may be on a function level (either everybody will be revived, or nobody will) or a form level (frozen is frozen). More education again. 10) The Frozen Dead Guy Days are a good place to do cryonics outreach. 43 Yes / 13 No / 23 Maybe More than half Yes. I'd love to see on what basis the Noes made their determination (headspace, traffic, etc.). I wonder to what extent the Maybes were "I don't know" and to what extent they were "Yes and No". A better phrasing might be "a good place to inform people about real-world cryonics". Questions About Cryonics 11) Do you think science will ever allow us to revive anyone currently cryonically preserved? no way! maybe probably of course! 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 The bins spanned numbers, which made for lots of .5's. 31/80 thought there were at least even odds, and 65/80 thought the chances were at least 1 in 5. Apparently not as optimistic as last year, when I only asked Yes/No. 12) If so, how many years would you guess it will be before the first successful revival? 6 _<20 23 _20-50 20 _50-100 15 _100-200 3 _200-500 3 _>500 Many more people (70) guessed this year (27 last year), presumably because of the multiple choice. I think this allowed a more representative weighting, not so heavily weighted towards <50 years., 13) If not, how many years do you think it will be before we are able to cryonically preserve people so that they can be revived at some later date? 5 _<20 13 _20-50 12 _50-100 7 _100-200 1 _200-500 2 _>500 5 _Never The "if so"/"if not" choice must have confused a lot of people, because there should have been 10 people left after the 70 who answered Q12, but 45 answered this question as well. 30 of the 45 think we will be able to preserve someone well enough that we will eventually be able to revive them within the next 100 years. (please continue on other side) _ Cryonics Survey, cont. 14) Before Frozen Dead Guy Days 2006, did you know that cryonics is accessible to the general public (for example, payable by means of a life insurance policy)? 36 _Yes 43 _No Definitely a place for education. The media hasn't helped here; they like to pull out numbers with lots of zeroes in them. I was surprised by the number of Yeses, actually -- I wonder if some took "accessible" to mean "on sale", independent of price. 15) Check any cryonics organizations you have heard of: 8 _Alcor Life Extension Foundation 6 _American Cryonics Society 12 _Cryonics Institute 7 _Trans Time, Incorporated CI had an advantage here, since some of their literature was on the table. I'm surprised that Trans Time and ACS did almost as well as Alcor. Questions About You 16) What is your current age? 7 _<18 11 _18-25 18 _26-35 17 _36-45 16 _46-55 9 _56-65 2 _66-75 0 _>75 Fewer kids and more older people this time; fewer in 26-35 range. 17) You are: 35_Male 44_Female 18) How much would you say you enjoy life overall now? Not at all some pretty well very much! 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 No one 0-3 (thank goodness); 2 4-5; 17 6-7; 59 8-10. Last year, no 0-3 (thank goodness); 3 4-5; 4 6-7; 63 8-10. More people in the middle were willing to say so this year? 19) Till what age would you like to live if you could be in good health the entire time? (circle one) 5 <70, 20 70-90, 24 90-120, 3 120-150, 5 150-200, 3 200-300, 1 300-500, 2 500-1000, 0 >1000, 14 no limit Someone pointed out that people may be thinking of "good health" relative to other people in a given age range, not youthful and healthy as cryonicists expect to be rejuvenated to. 1 person age 46-55 wanted to live till <70; I suspect depression. The rest of those who wanted to live to <70 were under 35 and maybe hadn't thought about it. I think the large number in the 70-90 and 90-120 bins suffer from lack of imagination, and maybe a sense of God wanting them to live a certain amount of time. Of the 14 "No Limit", 8 F, 6 M. Of the 6 from 200-1000, 5 M, 1 Unknown. For the 8 120-200, 4 F, 4 M. 20) What do you guess the world will be like in the far future, compared to today? 5 _much worse 22 _ worse 18 _about the same 21 _ better 10_much better This is not nearly as optimistic as I'd like to see, but may be indicative of the public at large. 21) If money were no object, would you consider cryonic preservation for yourself (and, if you like, for people you care about)? 9 _Yes 48 _No 21 _Maybe Last year there were 30 Yes, 46 No, 3 Maybe The "If not, why not" answers were interesting last year; maybe bring that back in some more manageable form. Interesting that the Noes are about the same, but many Yeses became Maybes. Maybe a "How important is X in your decision?" list? This graph cross-correlating the answers to Q20 and Q21 corroborates the association between optimism about the future and willingness to consider cryonics. Q21 Yes No Maybe Q20 MB 3 5 2 B 2 8 11 S 2 12 4 W 1 18 3 MW 0 4 1 (1 Yes and 1 Maybe had no Better/Worse predictions) The weighting towards optimism for the future in people willing to consider cryonics, and towards pessimism for the future in people not willing to consider it, is perhaps to be expected. This would suggest that it might be fruitful to approach people about cryonics who self-identify as optimists (speak at group meetings, etc.?). _ _ _ Thank you for your participation! Please supply contact information. By default it will only be used to let you know if you win the drawing (and to send you your prize if you win). None of your information will be given or sold to any third party without specific instructions. If I win, I want CryoBear Chocolate (circle one) FTR, 22 asked for the CryoBear and 22 asked for chocolate. 15 made no choice but gave their addresses anyway (did they expect to be automatically entered for the bear?). 21 gave no contact information. Name: Mailing address: Number/Street: : City/State/Zip: : If you would like to receive one (1) follow-up email from the Cryonics Advocacy Group with a list of URLs related to this survey, please supply your email address here: Email: : Only 13 people supplied email addresses -- maybe some didn't notice the blank, didn't think email was needed, or were just tired of filling out the form. Putting the email address request a bit earlier might help. Check here if you would like an information packet from _Alcor and/or _Cryonics Institute 4 people wanted info; 3 from Alcor, all 4 from CI. 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