X-Message-Number: 27742 From: Subject: Evaluating the survey results Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:04:09 US/Eastern I waited until there were exactly 100 respondents to the Cryonicist Survey and have now removed both that survey and my "beta test" Life Extension survey from my website. There were 113 respondents to the latter. I am planning to leave the displayed results on my website for a week or so, after which I plan to remove them. Examine them while you can: http://www.benbest.com/sandbox/Display_Survey_7.php http://www.benbest.com/sandbox/Display_Survey_8.php Here I give my evaluation of the survey results. Just because I created these surveys does not mean that my evaluations are any better than those of others. I welcome and invite evaluations from others. THE LIFE EXTENSION SURVEY ("beta test") ( http://www.benbest.com/sandbox/Display_Survey_7.php) The answers to question (18) clearly indicate that the respondents are cryonicists. The majority have made cryonics arrangements for cryopreservation and with one exception the rest intend-to or want-to. Even though the survey was posted to the Cryonics Institute Forum, it was also posted to the Cryonics Society of Canada list and to CryoNet, so I find it surprising that more respondents had made cryonics arrangements with CI than with Alcor. Also surprising is the fact that not even one respondent indicated arrangements with ACS. Male respondents outnumbered females by about 8 to 1, with the great majority being atheist or agnostic. Respondent age centers on the 40s, in agreement with the average age of CI Members. Returning to the beginning of the survey, it is nice to see that so many of the respondents feel so positive about life. It would be interesting to compare quality of life assessments of cryonicists with that of the general public. The answers to (2)-(4) indicate a definite optimism about the capacity of science to handle the "aging problem", with not one of the 113 respondents failing to answer the question. Question (8) shows a resounding majority wanting a lifespan without limit, and a slightly larger number say there is no limit placed on maximum lifespan for social good. It is rare to see unanimity concerning any question, even including the 113 who said they understand the purpose of cryonics in question (12). I would be interested to know the opinions of the 7 respondents who denied that cryonics is a life extension strategy in question (13). I am somewhat surprised by the great conviction that suspended animation through cryopreservation will someday be possible. Not a single person answered "No" or "Don't know" and only one refrained from giving an answer. I don't know what to make of the wide spread in question (17) concerning the chances of future reanimation. A fifth of the respondents are what I would call extreme optimists with 98-100% chance of success estimated. Question (16) is the most challenging question on the survey, I believe. As I have said, opinions -- even of cryonicists -- are no substitute for scientific answers (although scientific answers are only partly possible). The spread of opinions is impressive. the fact that no one chose "always useless" is another indication of the pro-cryonics attitude of the respondents. I wonder how many of those who think cryonics is useless after 6 minutes are confident that they can benefit from standby. Questions 6,7 and 14 were flawed, and I attempted to rectify the flaws in my follow-up survey of cryonicists. THE CRYONICISTS' SURVEY ( http://www.benbest.com/sandbox/Display_Survey_8.php ) In this case the males outnumbered females nearly 9 to 1. I am disappointed and perplexed that 63 (63%) of respondents chose not to respond (not even say "Don't Remember") in answer to how they first learned about cryonics. In questions (3) and (4) I evidently should have chosen larger time-spans for delay because about a quarter of the respondents took more than 6 years to decide they wanted cryonics or would make arrangements. I actually thought that more than 28% would have thought they wanted cryopreservation upon first learning of the idea. There is an inconsistency between the answers to questions (4) and (15). In the latter, 64% say they have made cryonics arrangements with Alcor or CI, whereas in the former 75% imply they have made arrangements. Question (5) was my attempt to clarify question (14) from the earlier survey. With all that has been written about vitrification, I am shocked that 37% deny that freezing damage in the brain can be eliminated with current practice and only 14% believe that freezing damage to the brain can definitely be eliminated. Cryonicists could benefit from more education about vitrification, in my opinion. Most seem content with the idea that repair can fix all damage, I expect. Question (6) could be hard to interpret. I was intending to monitor complacency. In light of the response to question (5) I am disappointed that 69% seem so satisfied with their current knowledge. Despite the fact that I probably know much more about these subjects than the vast majority of respondents, I chose "Somewhat dissatisfied", and could easily have chosen "Very dissatisfied". I hunger and thirst for more knowledge about these subjects. I find it impressive that 57% of the respondents estimate they have been a primary source of information about cryonics for more than 9 people. This could say much about cryonicists as meme vectors, although it does not match well with the answers to question (2). Question (8) indicates a majority have not induced another to make cryonics arrangements. I am wondering how many of those who were influenced were influenced because they signed-up a relative. 89% of the respondents showed at least some concern about access to cryonics because of affordability, whereas 64% had at least some concern about lack of desire for cryopreservation. I am wondering if the 36% who said they were indifferent have never met someone they respected or cared-about who had no desire for cryopreservation. Question (11) was an attempt to satisfy my curiosity, although I don't think the question was formulated very well. Survival has always been my primary, if not exclusive, concern and I have been curious about the attitudes of other cryonicists. Questions (12)-(14) were my final effort to get clear answers about the immortality question -- which seems to be so slippery in so many minds. I imagine that I have succeeded. I believe that the majority of cryonicists use the word "immortality" in the way I do -- to refer to infinite (non-finite) lifespan in what Jordan Sparks calls the "mathematical" sense of the word. I am somewhat shocked to see that nearly half of the respondents think it is at least probable that immortality can be achieved through science. For some of my views on this subject, see http://www.benbest.com/lifeext/immortal.html Question (14) was another of my probes as a "scientific anthropologist or psychologist". A lifespan of hundreds of years would be a colossal, unprecedented transformation of the human condition. In this context, I can only shake my head in wonder that such a significant number of cryonicists could be so disturbed by a purported million year limit to lifespan. Again, I make no claim that my evaluations of my surveys are better than those of others. I am eager to hear what others conclude from the results. -- Ben Best Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=27742