X-Message-Number: 27787
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 14:58:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Davis <>
Subject: Re: Cryonics/Life Extension Survey "Beta

Someone wrote:

>  I don't know what to make of the wide spread in
question (17) concerning the chances of future
reanimation. A fifth of the respondents are what I
would call extreme optimists with 98-100% chance of
success estimated.

I'm one of the "extreme" optimists.  The phrase I have
used repeatedly in this space is, "Success is a near
certainty".  The reasoning leading to this view can be
summarized as follows:  The rate of "decay" in the
cryopreserved is effectively zero.  Ergo, there is no
time constraint for development of "restoration tech".
 Thus, accessible "restoration tech" will encompass
TECHNOLOGY, ie anything/everything that is "doable". 
The routine manipulation of biological structures at
the molecular level, the central feature of biology is
an indisputable empirical fact, is indisputably
doable.  Ergo cryorestoration is doable.  Ergo success
is a near certainty.

This is prefatory to my point, which is that the
"Cryonics is a longshot" meme -- whole cloth,
prejudicial, non-fact-based crap -- needs to be
aggressively challenged. Most particularly, those in
the cryonics community who see themselves as
proponents, should examine their own position re the
"Cryonics is a longshot" meme, and upon finding it to
be a presumption-based rather than fact-based
position, revise their position, or at least stop
reinforcing the "long-shot" meme absent supporting

I haven't read all the posts in this thread, but it
feels like folks are once again talking up the
marketing issue.  With tech advances a ubiquitous
feature of modern culture,
aging-as-maybe-a-curable-condition becoming acceptable
discourse, the baby boomer demographic looking into
the mortality abyss, and cryonics receiving
ever-more-favorable, ever-more-serious treatment in
the press, (other?), I judge the time right for the


Best, Jeff Davis    Skype:jrd1415

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