X-Message-Number: 27892 Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 20:04:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Skrecky <> Subject: 225'th update on fly longevity experiments This is the 225'th update of my fly longevity experiments. Average temperature was 23.9 C during this run. Estimated maximal longevity using the formula (363 - T*11.2) is 95 days. In run #91 substituting distilled water for tap water was found to decrease survival. This run retests this to check if it was just a chance finding, and also examines some other sources of water. If the two bottles using Exact distilled water in this run are averaged together they slightly underperformed tap water, so this could be interpreted as weak confirmation. Penta (reverse osmosis) water, which also had a very low solids content (<2ppm) also slightly underperformed. Tap water that was boiled and concentrated until only 9.3% was left performed slightly better than fresh tap water. A surprising benefit was found for Aquafina water, which was treated with reverse osmosis, but had a higher solids content (<10ppm) than Penta water. What does this all mean? Both Exact and Penta water have very low solids content, but no rational tieing this to a slightly reduced survival can be formulated. However both Exact and Penta would probably also have a reduced heavy water content. As deuterium is known to exert some biological effects at low concentrations, then perhaps this might be the active ingredient. The next run will investigate the effect of supplemental heavy water on longevity. The unexpected benefit of Aquafina water relative to tap water may reflect a reduced pathogen content. The boiled water also suggests this explanation. Further testing with both heated tap water and Aquafina have been scheduled. Run #225 Percent Survival on Day supplement 9 19 26 35 49 64 73 82 93 105 113 ________________________________________________________ tap water #1 100 100 100 100 76 35 24 10 0 - - " #2 97 94 92 81 58 31 22 8 0 - - Aquafina #1 100 95 95 82 71 45 32 18 5 3 0 " #2 98 91 83 74 57 41 29 17 5 2 0 90.7% boil-off #1 100 100 94 84 56 28 16 6 6 0 - " #2 100 95 80 64 49 23 15 5 3 0 - Exact #1 97 92 84 76 60 35 27 19 5 0 - " #2 97 97 87 80 51 15 3 0 - - - Penta #1 100 97 97 77 61 26 16 7 3 0 - " #2 100 100 93 80 55 30 13 0 - - - Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=27892