X-Message-Number: 27970
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 00:30:32 -0700
From: Mike Perry <>
Subject: Re: KrioRus, Fedorov
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I think KrioRus is the first cryonics organization outside the US that 
offers actual longterm storage of patients. Congratulations and best 
wishes! There were some tough lessons to be learned by the US 
organizations, perhaps things will go better this time. (For one thing, you 
are focused on brain-only which is relatively easy to maintain.)

Danila Medvedev, #27959:

>The Fedorov society today is supportive of cryonics. I expect to give a
>talk to them about KrioRus in 1 week (on 27.05). We would be glad to
>arrange a group contract with Fedorov society members.

I have been in touch with the Fedorov society, though not for several 
years. (Best wishes to them of course!) I have written some articles for 
Alcor's newsletter Cryonics on Fedorov, and devote some space to him in my 
book, Forever for All. Recently I had a paper published in which I argue 
that modern physics allows a resurrection project somewhat as Fedorov 
envisioned, with different details but basically the same overall effect of 
raising the dead. (This is based on the viewpoint that recreating a 
suitable pattern or description of a lost individual would allow a 
resurrection in a reasonable sense, which I maintain but not everybody 
agrees with. Ideas related to mine will also be found in Frank Tipler's 
book, The Physics of Immortality, but that book has no reference to 
cryonics. The paper is "Raising the Dead Scientifically: Fedorov's Project 
in a Modern Form," in Death and Anti-Death, vol. 3 published by Ria 
University Press, Palo Alto, Calif., 2005.)

>The brain [of Lenin] is stored in the Brain Institute and we would
>like to find out whether there is a remote possibility that it may be
>revived. This direction could/will be further pursued
>in the future.

This is good to hear. I am also very interested in any prospects for 
chemical or other preservation of the brain as a low-cost alternative to 
cryonics for people who lack financial means. I am looking for any papers 
that report on various fixative techniques and how well they might perform, 
particularly for brain ultrastructure. I haven't found nearly as much 
material as I would like on this subject, and any assistance with this is 
greatly appreciated.

Readers may also be interested to know that there is a recently-formed 
Society for Universal Immortalism,


devoted in part to implementing Fedorov's project someday. (I am currently 


Mike Perry

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