X-Message-Number: 27981 From: Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 10:18:07 EDT Subject: Singularity "aware"? Flavonoid writes in part: >It occurred to me recently that shortly after the Singularity becomes >aware, it will want to know where all its humans are at. It's almost certainly a waste of time to try to guess events at or after the Singularity (or the "Spike"), but such discussions may possibly have a bit of influence on cryonics recruitment, and the pessimism in Flavonoid's viewpoint is unhelpful, as well as probably unsound. First, the quotation above implies that the Singularity will involve a huge computer network with effective power to control most communications and with consciousness (feeling or the capacity for subjective experiences). All of this is more likely wrong than right. The question of subjectivity in digital computers has been rehashed many times, and I have repeatedly shown, to my satisfaction at least, that subjectivity in computers (as usually defined) is uncertain and probably impossible. The computer(s) of the Singularity will probably not have anything corresponding to human feelings or desires, merely programmed goals and methods. Most importantly, almost everyone with a potentially powerful computer will know the risks and will want to remain in control. Very likely there will not be any autonomous computers--instead they will be extensions of a human brain. Our biological brains already include a great many subsets that operate at an unconscious level, but generally serve the essential self and can usually be overridden by the conscious self if necessary. Of course there is a chance that some genius will get a head start and his computer will out-think all the others and improve itself so rapidly that the genius will effectively control the world. But that's only a small chance. Because of competition, and because of teamwork, there will likely be many nearly simultaneous spike people, and no world tyrant. Eventually every person or every family may have its own personal extension super computer/fabricator linked to the biological brain(s), and most of them on the alert for megalomaniacs. Further, it seems likely that power-hunger (power over other people) will decline as a motivator, for reasons that seem obvious. Robert Ettinger Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=27981